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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / April 2004Roaming PAYG - are incoming texts free ?
If taking a PAYG phone to continental Europe are texts free or do some networks charge for incoming when roaming ? My daughter's off on a school trip and is concerned about losing her credit to incomers Phil > If taking a PAYG phone to continental Europe are texts free or do some > networks charge for incoming when roaming ? My daughter's off on a > school trip and is concerned about losing her credit to incomers > Phil So you don't really care if she can't call or text you in an emergency from her phone ? Steve Terry >So you don't really care if she can't call or text you in an emergency from her >phone ? and you point is ? Phil > >So you don't really care if she can't call or text you in an emergency from her > >phone ? > > and you point is ? > Phil All PAYT Roaming is a half arsed joke, if it matters to be able to contact someone roaming, make sure they have a full roaming Sim. It aint rocket science getting one, just buy a Virgin Sim which will give you a service charge free account, and add Direct Debit full roaming to it. Steve Terry write down the message centre number then erase it from the phone. This way she'll be able to call you in an emergency and still keep her credit if people keep sending her text messages. I'm not even sure if they do charge for incoming text messages, but they do charge the phone abroad a large sum for calls made TO the phone, just so you're aware if you ring her. Perhaps give her £10 credit to make sure she can contact you, she won't be able to use the amount of text messages as you've deleted the message number :) >write down the message centre number then erase it from the phone. This way >she'll be able to call you in an emergency and still keep her credit if >people keep sending her text messages. Erasing the service centre (SMSC) number will not stop incoming texts - that is only used for outgoing. Messages sent to the phone go via the sender's SMSC (which may or may not be the same as the recipient's, depending upon if they are on the same network, etc.). They don't even get passed from the sender's SMSC to the recipient's SMSC, they are delivered directly by the sender's SMSC to the handset.. So, erasing the handset's SMSC number will only succeed in stopping her from sending texts. Matt  SignatureMatthew Haigh --$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org-- GCRSoft, providing SMS solutions since 1996... http://www.gcrsoft.com http://www.moretext.com my bad :) erm thinking....give her some money to buy a SIM from the country she is visiting? texts to her phone will be free and she can text you on the cheap. > erm thinking....give her some money to buy a SIM from the country she is > visiting? texts to her phone will be free and she can text you on the cheap. But then it costs more to text *to* her from the uk. SignatureJ B hey you can't have everything your way :) On Orange, Vodafone and T-mobile the receipt of texts while roaming with a PAYG phone are free. Did the research as nobody knew here. Phil >Did the research as nobody knew here. I don't think I was the only person in this newsgroup who knew. They are free, except possibly in Russia and Spain. SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! >I don't think I was the only person in this newsgroup who knew. perhaps "knew" is the wrong thing - "prepared to inform" rather than going off on tangents or suggesting non-solutions to a problem I never had :-) Phil >perhaps "knew" is the wrong thing - "prepared to inform" The problem is that it is very easy to get pissed off by the pillocks who try to excuse inconsiderate actions like spamming and top-posting, and in the end you can't be bothered to answer every question people ask, particularly when they could do a search of google groups. However, using a PAYG phone for roaming is both expensive and a bit unreliable. If she can be trusted not to lose it, lend her a contract phone. If not, perhaps she should manage without a mobile for the duration of the trip. Remember that with PAYG roaming it could cost as much as £1.50 per minute for all calls, incoming or outgoing. SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! > Remember that with PAYG roaming it could cost as much as £1.50 per > minute for all calls, incoming or outgoing. > Iain PAYT Roaming costs are roughly double roaming on contract of the same network Steve Terry > >Did the research as nobody knew here. > > I don't think I was the only person in this newsgroup who knew. > > They are free, except possibly in Russia and Spain. Free in Spain too, well Majorca anyway. > my bad :) > > erm thinking....give her some money to buy a SIM from the country she is > visiting? texts to her phone will be free and she can text you on the cheap. 40p a text or something for a week isn't the end of the world is it, considering some people have to pay 10p a text anyway? I pay 30p a text no problem when abroad, I just try not to send pointless ones. Sam --- If you have any queries regarding this email please contact Horshamnet on 08708811293. > my bad :) > > erm thinking....give her some money to buy a SIM from the country she is > visiting? texts to her phone will be free and she can text you on the cheap. Assuming the network she buys a Sim for has coverage in her area, and that the foreign network has an agreement to pass text to your UK network. Because of Spam text, many don't Steve Terry > If taking a PAYG phone to continental Europe are texts free or do some > networks charge for incoming when roaming ? My daughter's off on a > school trip and is concerned about losing her credit to incomers No she will not be charged for incomming text messages, the exception I belive is Russia and a few other places that are not too important possibly. The cost of outgoing text messages won't be cheap but isn't too awful, for calls though its a bit of a no no, best option is to call the hotel number and then ask for the relevant room number or whatever for people that want to call, sometimes if people really do need to speak to me I ask for a text, and reply when convinient to take a call on the room phone. Do make sure you have an e-top up card for her, encourage her not to use it too much (get people to call her on hotel \ landline or use payphone etc) and make sure she has enough credit, doesn't keep trying numbers that don't answer as they may be charged for full min etc. Personally I use a pay monthly virgin phone exclusivly for roaming and only give the people I actually want to speak to the number - as long as she's not going to get endless calls distrubing her this may be overkill though. HTH Sam > Phil --- If you have any queries regarding this email please contact Horshamnet on 08708811293. >No she will not be charged for incomming text messages, the exception I >belive is Russia and a few other places that are not too important possibly. I go to Russia as it happens, but thanks for the other thoughts. Incoming texts in Russia are preferable to a quid a minute billed by the minute for incoming calls. Phil |
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