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bextech.co.uk - 15 Jun 2004 12:34 GMT
Virgin Mobile will offer MMS from the 1st of July 2004.

And will cost 30p per message.

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hairydog@despammed.com - 15 Jun 2004 13:30 GMT
>Virgin Mobile will offer MMS from the 1st of July 2004.

Hmmm. Not of any interest to me, whatever. What is the score on GPRS?

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eggster2k - 15 Jun 2004 17:13 GMT
>>Virgin Mobile will offer MMS from the 1st of July 2004.
>
>Hmmm. Not of any interest to me, whatever. What is the score on GPRS?

according to the virgin mobile website:

Things have just stepped up a pace! Soon we’ll be introducing Fast
WAP, otherwise known as GPRS.

Fast WAP is exactly what it says it is – when you’re accessing WAP
info, like your VirginXtras, it’ll appear on your phone even faster.

You’ll need a GPRS compatible phone and you’ll also need to get set
up. Keep your eye on this website for all the details.
Dan - 15 Jun 2004 17:27 GMT
> according to the virgin mobile website:
>
> Things have just stepped up a pace! Soon we’ll be introducing Fast
> WAP, otherwise known as GPRS.

Sounds horribly like a walled garden, no full Internet GPRS...
Tutts - 30 Jun 2004 10:29 GMT
> Sounds horribly like a walled garden, no full Internet GPRS...

Nope, will be full internet GPRS 1p for 2k (5quid per meg approx)
Soruk - 30 Jun 2004 23:39 GMT
>> Sounds horribly like a walled garden, no full Internet GPRS...
>
>Nope, will be full internet GPRS 1p for 2k (5quid per meg approx)

£5.12/Mb.. ouch. Shame, they could have done better than that.

Even Orange offer a pay-as-you-use GPRS offering with full (at least TCP
protocol) Internet access at £3/Mb...

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hairydog@despammed.com - 16 Jun 2004 00:00 GMT
>Things have just stepped up a pace! Soon we’ll be introducing Fast
>WAP, otherwise known as GPRS.

"Soon" has been the estimate for a very long time.

GPRS WAP is on virtually no interest to me. I want proper GPRS
internet access. Sounds like they have no plans for that.

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Steve Terry - 16 Jun 2004 00:12 GMT
> >Things have just stepped up a pace! Soon we'll be introducing Fast
> >WAP, otherwise known as GPRS.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> internet access. Sounds like they have no plans for that.
> Iain

Toy network, just like Dicky B's boat.

Steve Terry
bextech.co.uk - 16 Jun 2004 00:42 GMT
Doesn't bother me!

I don't even use WAP, have no interest in sending MMS either!

I just thought I'd post it for those who do!

You see this thing a have is called mobile phone!  It is used to make and
receive calls whilst mobile, and for the vast majority of people thats all
they want to do, who cares about stupid gimmicks?

www.bextech.org.uk

> > >Things have just stepped up a pace! Soon we'll be introducing Fast
> > >WAP, otherwise known as GPRS.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Steve Terry
eggster2k - 16 Jun 2004 09:30 GMT
>> >Things have just stepped up a pace! Soon we'll be introducing Fast
>> >WAP, otherwise known as GPRS.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Steve Terry

virgin mobile is probably imo the best prepay for people who want a
cheap payg tariff to call people with. simple and cheap.
eggster2k - 16 Jun 2004 09:37 GMT
>>> >Things have just stepped up a pace! Soon we'll be introducing Fast
>>> >WAP, otherwise known as GPRS.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>virgin mobile is probably imo the best prepay for people who want a
>cheap payg tariff to call people with. simple and cheap.

and 3p texts virgin - virgin is very good.
Stuart - 16 Jun 2004 10:01 GMT
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:12:02 +0100, "Steve Terry"
>
> virgin mobile is probably imo the best prepay for people who want a
> cheap payg tariff to call people with. simple and cheap.

I agree. I tend to recommend it for people who are occasional users, but on
occasion may make heavy use, likely to make most of their calls during the
day, need emergency roaming (with DD setup), don't often call other mobiles
or need data. That covers a lot of folks IMHO.

And the T-Mobile network coverage may not be the best - but it no longer
follows that far behind.

In that scenerio it is hard to beat.

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>-@LuVbuG@-< - 16 Jun 2004 13:42 GMT
> > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:12:02 +0100, "Steve Terry"
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> In that scenerio it is hard to beat.

In addition to that, they have the best CS out of the lot!

Never had a single issue with them - prompt, and stick to promises.

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eggster2k - 16 Jun 2004 13:52 GMT
>> > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:12:02 +0100, "Steve Terry"
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>In addition to that, they have the best CS out of the lot!

i second that. virgin and orange are imo the best out there.
hairydog@despammed.com - 16 Jun 2004 22:36 GMT
>i second that. virgin and orange are imo the best out there.

I'm not so sure. Virgin CS are consistently not bad. Orange CS can be
really good, but I get the feeling that this is despite company
policy, not because of it.

I recently switched tariffs on an Orange account and a Vodafone one.
For the Orange one, the first time I rang I gave up after 15 minutes.
The second time I tried I was on hold for about 10 minutes, and then
when I got through, I was told that I could only switch tariff at the
end of the billing month, weeks away.

For the Vodafone one, the system said they were busy and there was a
wait, then the call was answered a few rings later. No problem
changing tariff, effective midnight that night. The CSR was helpful
and friendly, and somehow the whole thing seemed efficient.

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>-@LuVbuG@-< - 17 Jun 2004 00:04 GMT
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:42:23 +0100, ">-@LuVbuG@-<"
> >In addition to that, they have the best CS out of the lot!
>
> i second that. virgin and orange are imo the best out there.

Can't fault Virgin. Only been an Orange customer for a few months, and I've
only asked CS to do specific things for me (which I know of beforehand) as
opposed to asking about something I have no idea about - they seem helpful
enough.

Don't get me started on T-Mobile though - I think that they treat Advantage
Plan customers lower than everybody else!

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Ruari Callow - 16 Jun 2004 15:09 GMT
> > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:12:02 +0100, "Steve Terry"
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> In that scenerio it is hard to beat.

In the scenario you have given: occasional users, on occasion may make
heavy use, likely to make most of their calls during the day and need
emergency roaming (with DD setup) Fresh one-rate would also work. In
addition one-rate allows for much cheaper crossnet calls (15ppm) and
crossnet texts (5p). However, I'll grant you that Virgin's staff are far
better informed of exact tariff details and the Fresh system for checking
your balance is almost certainly the worst in the entire world, comparable
to pulling out your own fingernails with pliers. Still, it is an option.
;-)

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Soruk - 17 Jun 2004 00:30 GMT
>In the scenario you have given: occasional users, on occasion may make
>heavy use, likely to make most of their calls during the day and need
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>to pulling out your own fingernails with pliers. Still, it is an option.
>;-)

For (DD pay monthly) roamers, the rates are better than most too. Texts
are also lower than Orange's new "simplified" ones too. And, per second
billing after the first minute irrespective of the roaming network's
policy isn't bad either.

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Steve Terry - 16 Jun 2004 21:05 GMT
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> virgin mobile is probably imo the best prepay for people who want a
> cheap payg tariff to call people with. simple and cheap.

For Text, O2 online PAYT beats it, and now for cross net use,
Fresh seem better.

But I think it's still work tracking down an Orange OVP Virgin for transfer,
Better network, free Voicemail deposits, full roaming, and full diverts.
Virgins call rates (except for 0845/08xx numbers)

Steve Terry
-halli- - 15 Jun 2004 17:17 GMT
> Virgin Mobile will offer MMS from the 1st of July 2004.

Ok, found confirmation of this on the Virgin site here
http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/services/messaging/index.html

> And will cost 30p per message.

Can you provide a link which confirms this price please?

Cheers for the "heads up" I didn't realise!

-halli-
bextech.co.uk - 15 Jun 2004 18:14 GMT
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Virgin Mobile News
June 15, 2004
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
TOP STORY
VIRGIN MOBILE UNVEILS SEXY SUMMER SNAPPERS AND PICTURE MESSAGING SERVICE

15.06.04: Virgin Mobile today unveiled its stunning summer line up of sexy
and stylish phones. There are ten new picture-messaging phones in the range,
including eight with integrated cameras - marking the launch of Virgin
Mobile's new picture messaging service (MMS), which customers can enjoy
using from the 1st July.

Happy snappers can ditch their cameras from this summer. Who wants to just
'click' with a camera, when you can now 'click and send' with a camera
phone?

The outstanding range of photo models has plenty to offer:
- All phones have picture messaging ready-to-use out of the box
- All phones have a colour screen
- Eight out of ten new models have an integrated camera
- There are a total of 16 MMS phones in Virgin Mobile's complete range
- Ranging from simple to sophisticated, there's a phone to suit all budgets.

New picture messaging service (MMS):
Can you hear waves lapping gently against the shore? Can you hear the
clinking of ice in your rum punch? Want to say to someone 'The weather's
lovely, wish you were here'? Spice up your picture messages by adding sound
or text, to really show your mates what they're missing.

Virgin Mobile customers can snap and send to their mates on any UK mobile
for a flat rate of only 30p per message, whether sending from home or
abroad. And it's free to receive picture messages.

Virgin Mobile customers with a picture messaging phone can send messages to
all their mates (whether or not they have a picture messaging phone or are
on another network ). You can even send a message direct to an email
address. If your mate doesn't have a picture messaging phone, he will get a
text telling him to view the message online. Virgin Mobile customers will be
directed to the Virgin Mobile website where they can view the picture
message.

Graeme Hutchinson, sales and marketing director at Virgin Mobile, said:
"Text messaging has been a massive phenomenon over the past few years and
picture messaging is about to take this trend to a level, because it's even
sexier! Now Virgin Mobile customers can send photos or pictures with text
and sound. Who needs clunky cameras and fiddly film, when camera phones can
let you snap what you like, whenever and wherever you like, and send it to
whomever you like, all at the touch of a button?"

Virgin Mobile customers with a new picture messaging phone will be able to
use the service automatically, and existing customers with picture messaging
phones simply need to get their picture messaging settings from Virgin
Mobile by visiting www.virginmobile.com/mobile/services/messaging/ or by
calling 789.

Virgin Mobile customers currently receive a host of benefits as standard,
such as no line rental, a free earpiece with every phone, free voicemail and
free itemised bills. In addition, texts to other Virgin Mobile customers in
the UK are just 3p as standard, and picture messages are only 30p.  Virgin
Mobile customers can pay for their calls any way they like: by pre-pay
voucher or E-Top-up, by credit or debit card or by direct debit.

This press release can also be found at:
http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/media_centre/media_newsstory.jsp?id=4625

All Virgin Mobile press releases can be found on
http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/media_centre/media_newsarchive.jsp

For further information please contact the Virgin Mobile Press Office:
____________________________________________________________________________
__
**************** VIRGIN MOBILE PRESS OFFICE *******************

Press Office 24-hour hotline: 0845 600 6272
press.office@virginmobile.com

> > Virgin Mobile will offer MMS from the 1st of July 2004.
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> -halli-
-halli- - 15 Jun 2004 22:58 GMT
> > > And will cost 30p per message.
> >
> > Can you provide a link which confirms this price please?

> This press release can also be found at:

http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/media_centre/media_newsstory.jsp?id=4625

> All Virgin Mobile press releases can be found on
> http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/media_centre/media_newsarchive.jsp

thanks, much appreciated

-halli-
bextech.org.uk - 16 Jun 2004 19:43 GMT
> > > Can you provide a link which confirms this price please?
>
> > This press release can also be found at:

http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/media_centre/media_newsstory.jsp?id=4625

> > All Virgin Mobile press releases can be found on
> > http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/media_centre/media_newsarchive.jsp
>
> thanks, much appreciated
>
> -halli-

Press realease last twodigits has changed in the link - now:

http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/media_centre/media_newsstory.jsp?id=4645

www.bextech.org.uk
Steve Terry - 15 Jun 2004 19:28 GMT
> Virgin Mobile will offer MMS from the 1st of July 2004.
> And will cost 30p per message.

O2 online PAYT with 75 MMS for a Tenner top that can be used on calls
have a lot to worry about then.

Steve Terry
Stuart - 15 Jun 2004 23:37 GMT
> O2 online PAYT with 75 MMS for a Tenner top that can be used on calls
> have a lot to worry about then.

Surely the need to send 75 MMS/month is a very niche market?

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Steve Terry - 16 Jun 2004 00:15 GMT
> > O2 online PAYT with 75 MMS for a Tenner top that can be used on calls
> > have a lot to worry about then.
>
> Surely the need to send 75 MMS/month is a very niche market?
> Stuart

That's why O2 online alternatively offer inc 50MMS / 100Text,
or 25MMS / 200Text, or 0MMS / 300Text, instead of 75MMS / 0Text.

Steve Terry
Steve Dulieu - 16 Jun 2004 00:40 GMT
>  >
> > O2 online PAYT with 75 MMS for a Tenner top that can be used on calls
> > have a lot to worry about then.
>
> Surely the need to send 75 MMS/month is a very niche market?

I would have thought that the need to send *1* MMS a month was a very niche
market...:-)
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