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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / September 2006Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work (fundamentally); how there are created and what software programs are used; what programming languages are used; how the completed programs are loaded and unloaded. Basically I would like to know in laymen’s terms how all of this works so that I can better understand the capabilities cell phones have now and what they may have in the hands of a good programmer and of course the right hardware. Here are some further questions: 1. Can the programming script be manipulated or tweaked to suit the user? For example if I wanted my cell phone to perform alternative functions other than the ones that are currently loaded, is it possible to do this? 2. Can the GPS module within the cell phone be used to perform other functions other than what is loaded? For example: if I had a phone that had GPS capability, but not for mapping or anything like that, could I change its directive to allow me to use it as an actual GPS hand held or other things? 3. Can the phone be used to send out signals to other compatible devices in order to control these other devices? The main objective here is to determine ‘if the phones can be used for more than they currently are and what it would take to do such things. Can the phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your computer if the structure was there to allow it to? Any help would be appreciated – I’m sure I will have more questions once I get some feedback. Thanks > Can the > phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your > computer if the structure was there to allow it to? Only if we can figure out some way to METER any of these things you want to do, on a pay-per-use basis to jack up cellphone profits and charge you out the a.s for them....like everything else it does, now. You don't expect to use OUR cellphone hooked to YOUR computer for free, do you?! How absurd!..... >>Can the >>phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > do, on a pay-per-use basis to jack up cellphone profits and charge you out > the a.s for them....like everything else it does, now. Its not an unusual business model. Go to a restaurant, the entrees (the thing everyone needs and wants) will be reasonably priced. The fancy desserts and booze (unnecessary stuff like video clips and games) can be had for a premium. > You don't expect to use OUR cellphone hooked to YOUR computer for free, do > you?! How absurd!..... Yea, pretty disgusting that a company would charge for bandwidth after paying for the licenses and installing and maintaining all of the equpment necessary to provide the service. > Yea, pretty disgusting that a company would charge for bandwidth after > paying for the licenses and installing and maintaining all of the > equpment necessary to provide the service. No, my company shill, it's pretty disgusting the company would turn off the functions, like Bluetooth (remember the lawsuits?) or in the case of the goddamned Aircard software, the laptop's ETHERNET PORT trying to force the customer into using the "system", not his DIRECT CONNECTION to his computer to download his pictures/files/emails/etc. That's what's disgusting..... The Ethernet port on an Aircarded laptop is NOT Verizon (or any of the rest of them's) property. No "workaround" of the company's hijacking software should be necessary, at all.... **CAUTION*** Larry BS again... This was covered before and multiple times at that. BTW, I'm not a big fan of Smith Micro's VZW Access Manager myself, but false info is still false info... Specifically, VZW Access manager does NOT disable a machine's Ethernet port. The IT boys would raise holy hell if it did. And, I also know of many multiple corporations that use VZW EVDO cards for their mobile users and all users just 'plug in' when in the office, with NO problems. In fact, this laptop I'm typing on is one of them. Simple and easy using both. card when out and about, Ethernet when available. I and MANY others do it on a daily basis with NO problems. Ethernet port works just fine, thank you!! So, again Larry my friend, you are disseminating simply false info. Your experience isn't any where near the norm. Another one of you "gross generalizations. Maybe you had problems when "installing for a friend". I'd be inclined to lean towards 'operator error' vs the program causing issues. Or, a bad setting somewhere in the IP Sec, DHCP or VPN... Again, just to be sure you get it..... IT departments of many major corporations wouldn't tolerate this for a second. And they don't have to, because your below 'info' is patently false. > No, my company shill, it's pretty disgusting the company would turn off the > functions, like Bluetooth (remember the lawsuits?) or in the case of the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of them's) property. No "workaround" of the company's hijacking software > should be necessary, at all... To answer your question "You don't expect to use OUR cellphone hooked to YOUR computer for free, do you?!". No, not at all. The charging for alternative services for use on a cell phone is one of the reasons for the query. I believe the future of the devices is endless and determining exactly what the end result, at least for the near future is what i'm trying to define. Thanks for your response. If you have information on how the systems works, I would also appreciate your input. I'm sure that 'some of the cell phone service providers and the designers of the devices have brainstormed what the possibilities are, but what if some of the alternative services could take place on most or some of the current devices with software/ code changes without changing hardware? I just don't know. CAS >> Can the >> phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >You don't expect to use OUR cellphone hooked to YOUR computer for free, do >you?! How absurd!..... > I believe the future of the > devices is endless and determining exactly what the end result, at > least for the near future is what i'm trying to define. The other services, like the basic phone service, is mediocre at best. They don't have the bandwidth, especially in cities, for "endless" uses and the FCC hasn't given them more to become TV broadcasters, for instance. I chuckle every time I see some idiot trying to watch the BIG Game on a screen only a little bigger than his thumb. I was sitting in a restaurant watching the BBC Game-of-the-day (soccer) someone had uploaded in Divx from high definition TV on alt.binaries.multimedia.sports and one of the cellphone TV viewers looked at the "big" 15.4" widescreend on my Gateway laptop. "Man, look how clear that looks!", he exclaimed to his mate. "It's hidef TV from BBC.", I told him. "I get it on my Verizon Wireless aircard.", I lied through my teeth...(c; If he was that stupid, he deserves it....(c;  SignatureThere's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. Finding the keyboard operational bookert1973 entered: > I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work (fundamentally); > how there are created and what software programs are used; what [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Thanks My knowledge is from the hardware side but I did hang out with the software folks. In reverse order: 3. Yes - In fact there are ways to control a cell site from a phone. 2. Theoretically yes. - You are not going to be able to do it without a bit of expensive equipment and a lot of programing knowledge. 1a Yes. and often different carriers get different functions on the same guts. Slap a different case on it with a different model number and you've got a new phone. 1b. No unfortunatly. Even with the programmer and a password, one little mistake and you have a door stop. Bob Signature-- Coffee worth staying up for – NY Times www.moondoggiecoffee.com > I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work (fundamentally); how there > are created and what software programs are used; what programming languages > are used; All the BREW apps use Qualcomm's APIs which use C/C++. I don't know what Verizon uses for its interface, probably Java. > how the completed programs are loaded and unloaded. Basically I > would like to know in laymen’s terms how all of this works so that I can [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Thanks Signaturetrippy mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30 sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM NP: "Little Suzy" -- Tesla "Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine, but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife, and a smile." -- Robert Redford "Spy Game" Thanks to everyone for your help. I recently found out that an Engineering associate of mine has experience with this technology and has lots of information on the subject. I appreciate your comments. CAS >> I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work (fundamentally); how there >> are created and what software programs are used; what programming languages [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Thanks Gee, you mean Larry didn't answer all your questions? -Quick > Thanks to everyone for your help. I recently found out > that an Engineering associate of mine has experience with [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>> >>> Thanks "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:7XKSg.9423$6S3.678 @newssvr25.news.prodigy.net: > Gee, you mean Larry didn't answer all your questions? > > -Quick Mawnin' Quicky. Pull up your pants and cover your a.shole. Man that stinks! SignatureThere's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. Finding the keyboard operational Larry entered: > "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in > news:7XKSg.9423$6S3.678 @newssvr25.news.prodigy.net: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Mawnin' Quicky. Pull up your pants and cover your a.shole. Man that > stinks! You see Larry, that's why I can't take you seriously. BTW how's your lawyer? Bob Signature-- Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times www.moondoggiecoffee.com |
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