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VZW Apapter for my PC Card to MacBook

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Chip - 08 Oct 2006 18:31 GMT
My MacBook does not have a slot. Is there an adapter available to hook it up
to the USB port ?

I know there are adapters for Windows laptops, but what about a Mac ?

Thanks !!

Chip
chip30@gmail.com
Notan - 08 Oct 2006 18:37 GMT
> My MacBook does not have a slot. Is there an adapter available to hook it up
> to the USB port ?
>
> I know there are adapters for Windows laptops, but what about a Mac ?

From http://www.elandigitalsystems.com/support/ufaq/u132data.php,

"MAC OSX : Release expected November 2006"

Notan
Larry - 08 Oct 2006 21:34 GMT
"Chip" <chip30@gmail.com> wrote in news:ABaWg.40079$QZ1.12704@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

> Thanks !!
>
> Chip

Chip, have you looked CLOSELY at the fine print that comes with that card
on VZW before you go to all this trouble and expense for something that's
not much of an internet connection?
http://www.evdoforums.com/thread2366-0-asc-165.html

Look closely at:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/promotion/controller?
promotionType=miniPac&action=miniStart

buried in the webpages......

Pay attention to where it says:
"Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess:
Subject to VZAccess Acceptable Use Policy, available on
www.verizonwireless.com. NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess data sessions
may be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i)
Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including
access to corporate intranets, email and individual productivity
applications like customer relationship management, sales force and field
service automation)."  Unless you're a corporation with your own
intranet, it says webpages and email ONLY.

"Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess services cannot be used (1) for
uploading, downloading or streaming of movies, music or games, (2) with
server devices or with host computer applications, including, but not
limited to, Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, Voice
over IP (VoIP), automated machine-to-machine connections, or peer-to-peer
(P2P) file sharing, or (3) as a substitute or backup for private lines or
dedicated data connections."

No FTP, no streaming, no anything else you'd want internet for...ONLY
webpages that don't stream and email....all for $60/month plus addon
fees.  USELESS....

"NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess is for individual use only and is not
for resale. We reserve right to limit throughput or amount of data
transferred, deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we
believe is using NationalAccess or BroadbandAccess in any manner
prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network or service
levels. Verizon Wireless reserves the right to protect its network from
harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We also reserve the right
to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term."

The keyword is "unlimited access", which ISN'T "unlimited service".  I
read a spam VZW sent to my snailmail box, and its fine print, trying to
sell me an aircard.  THAT spam said the limit is 5GB/month, but others
have said the LIMIT is 10GB/month.  Not sure any more what the
unpublished secret limit has been moved to....but I do know they just
dump you, sticking you with an aircard that is dead as a doorknob, at
their whim...without a warning.

No VoIP
No gaming
No streaming video or audio
No file downloading or uploading
of course, NO PICTURES or anything else Verizon thinks they can SELL you
for more.

USELESS.....Just want to make sure you know what you're getting into.  
The shills on here will now attack me for pointing this crap out....

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George - 09 Oct 2006 13:45 GMT
> "Chip" <chip30@gmail.com> wrote in news:ABaWg.40079$QZ1.12704@bgtnsc04-
> news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
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> not much of an internet connection?
> http://www.evdoforums.com/thread2366-0-asc-165.html

You do realize that a decent wireless broadband connection that is
portable/mobile and has handoff (not everyone wants to sit in a parking
lot mooching off of someones wireless) capability is of significant
value. You do realize that most people who get it are business users who
really aren't going to be running Kazaa? For that matter there are a lot
of people who have wired Internet connections who don't do that?
Larry - 09 Oct 2006 17:23 GMT
> significant
> value.

For what....Email and webpages?....the only thing allowed?

The Treo 650 does Email quite nicely.

No, internet is just fine on VZW as long as you don't USE it for anything
but spam and email.  5GB/month for $60?  The days of charging by the
kilobyte are OVER.

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Notan - 09 Oct 2006 17:38 GMT
> > significant
> > value.
>
> For what....Email and webpages?....the only thing allowed?

Yes, Larry.

For a number of us, the ability to access those services
(for business, pleasure, whatever), make the price well
worth it.

Sorry if you don't understand.

Notan
clifto - 09 Oct 2006 21:02 GMT
>> > significant
>> > value.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Sorry if you don't understand.

I have to go with Larry on this one. I can get e-mail and web pages on my
phone for minutes used. I can't see eighty or ninety dollars per month
for un-unlimited connect.

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Larry - 09 Oct 2006 21:50 GMT
> http://www.villagelandgrab.com/

Most interesting.  My condolences to the Homerdings....

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Notan - 10 Oct 2006 00:05 GMT
> >> > significant
> >> > value.
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> phone for minutes used. I can't see eighty or ninety dollars per month
> for un-unlimited connect.

Then you're clearly not a business user.

While on the road, I have to access the Internet for hours at a time
and must be guaranteed some type of connection. In addition, there's
no way you're gonna work on spreadsheets, documents, etc. on a phone
for any length of time.

Notan
Larry - 10 Oct 2006 00:14 GMT
> While on the road, I have to access the Internet for hours at a time
> and must be guaranteed some type of connection. In addition, there's
> no way you're gonna work on spreadsheets, documents, etc. on a phone
> for any length of time.
>
> Notan

Great idea.  Let's stop this charade of broadband cellular internet service
for the "home user" sold in every Circuit City, drop the BS, and sell
usable broadband to business users.....at the usual T-1/ISDN
astronomically-priced rate structure.  No restrictions will be necessary
because noone will be using it...well, much.

Ah, but what's being sold now, not just by the Verizon Gestapo but by all
of them, is a useless webpage service to put the spam on your desktop, paid
for by the masses.....for the benefit of the few business users buying it
on the cheap.

That's more realistic, isn't it?.....

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George - 10 Oct 2006 16:05 GMT
>>> significant
>>> value.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Notan

Exactly, Larry seems to be in permanent negative mode. Sitting in a
parking lot using someone else's wireless for free is quite a bit
different than having a connection that just works when you fire up your
notebook.
Peter Pan - 09 Oct 2006 00:13 GMT
> My MacBook does not have a slot. Is there an adapter available to
> hook it up to the USB port ?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Chip
> chip30@gmail.com

Depends on how much you want to spend.. I have one of these (Kyocera KR1
Router http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/kr1-router/ About $250).. Use my
broadband card in it, and people with mac's/pc's wired/wireless can all
share the connection... If you insist on USB, they make ethernet to USB
converters too... :)
SMS - 10 Oct 2006 00:06 GMT
> My MacBook does not have a slot. Is there an adapter available to hook it up
> to the USB port ?
>
> I know there are adapters for Windows laptops, but what about a Mac ?

There are no such adapter for the Mac, or for Linux on x86.

Note that these devices for the PC cost nearly $200.

It is a real pain in the butt what Apple did to the Mac Book, by
decontenting it with the removal of the CardBus/PC Card slot. There
probably will be ExpressCard modems in the not-too-distant future, but
there are other devices that will likely never have an Express Card
equivalent.

What some movie types in Southern California are doing is running OSx on
a non-Apple platform, typically a Sony VAIO. This is not an optimal
solution, but they need to run OSx for Final Cut Pro, and they must have
a CardBus slot for the memory cards from the HD digital studio cameras
from Panasonic. Ironically, the loss of the CardBus/PC Card slot is
driving a lot of producers/editors back to AVID from Final Cut Pro, and
back to the XP world from OSx, just so they can run their editor on a
notebook that has a CardBus/PC Card slot. The alternative is an
expensive card reader from Panasonic, that requires an external power
supply.
Larry - 10 Oct 2006 00:20 GMT
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:452ad5f3$0$96214
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> It is a real pain in the butt what Apple did to the Mac Book

Same old proprietary, overpriced, no competition crap Apple has pulled
since the Apple II was supposed to replace all the mainframes on the planet
with its proprietary revolution.....

I'm no fan of Micro$not any more than the next man.  It still sucks
eggs....however, it's what the software and hardware 95% of the planet is
written and made for.

Everyone should be honestly impressed at the brilliance Billy has hired to
make this happen....

(And to think we could all be multimillionaires if we'd just listened to
him and bought the stock back in 1973 when he was in that garage.....(sigh)
God I'm STUPID!

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SMS - 10 Oct 2006 01:55 GMT
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:452ad5f3$0$96214
> $742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
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> since the Apple II was supposed to replace all the mainframes on the planet
> with its proprietary revolution.....

Well some Windows notebooks have also dropped the CardBus slot, but at
least you can still find many that still have it. It's one thing to drop
an obsolete interface that very few people use, such as the serial or
parallel port (though I still have some industrial controller boards
that need a serial port, and some test equipment that needs a parallel
port).

Dropping the CardBus slot is really inexcusable, as there are still a
lot of devices that use it. But I guess that it's cheaper to write off
those pesky customers, than to include something that the majority of
users don't need, or can work around. It just so happens that the
cellular modems are not easy to work around. You either wait for an
ExpressCard version, or buy that expensive USB adapter.

> I'm no fan of Micro$not any more than the next man.  It still sucks
> eggs....however, it's what the software and hardware 95% of the planet is
> written and made for.
>
> Everyone should be honestly impressed at the brilliance Billy has hired to
> make this happen....

One thing about Microsoft is that they do work with hardware
manufacturers a LOT. I've been to many meetings where a consortium of
hardware manufacturers have pushed back successfully at Microsoft's
efforts to send legacy ports to an early end. For a while, Microsoft
wanted to _forbid_ legacy ports such as parallel and serial ports in
order for a hardware platform to be certified (which results in lower
costs for the OS for the manufacturer). But some big users of Windows
based applications absolutely need the legacy ports, i.e. point of sale
terminals typically connect to scales and receipt printers via legacy
ports, and stores don't want to replace these expensive devices with USB
versions.
Notan - 10 Oct 2006 02:22 GMT
> > SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:452ad5f3$0$96214
> > $742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
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> cellular modems are not easy to work around. You either wait for an
> ExpressCard version, or buy that expensive USB adapter.

I'm in complete agreement with you, as far as dropping the PC Card slot
from laptops.

The reason for me purchasing the adapter, however, wasn't because my
laptop doesn't have a PC Card slot, but as a backup to my DSL connection.
Up here, in the mountains, it's not uncommon to have the power go out
during a storm. While our generator covers electricity, the only backup
to phones/DSL is a wireless connection.

Notan
 
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