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LG 8300 power problems

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Ange1o DePa1ma - 28 Oct 2006 18:51 GMT
I used to sing the praises of the LG VX8300's power management. Recently,
I've been finding that it loses power rather quickly. I had 1-2 bars two
days ago and hardly used the phone. Today when I went to power up it was
dead.

Are there any settings that will keep the phone from sucking juice out of
the battery when it's not in use? Or can this just be a bad battery?

Thanks,

Angelo
Elector - 28 Oct 2006 19:06 GMT
> I used to sing the praises of the LG VX8300's power management.
> Recently, I've been finding that it loses power rather quickly. I
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>
> Angelo

There is a battery saver mode in the menu options.

Elector
EB - 28 Oct 2006 19:12 GMT
> There is a battery saver mode in the menu options.

Hi,

There is? Can you tell me where? I've not come across it
and I am not very impressed by the battery life of the VX8300

EB
Elector - 29 Oct 2006 03:25 GMT
>> There is a battery saver mode in the menu options.
>
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>
> EB

On page 93 of the owners manual it states as a battery life extender
to turn off or limit certain features. All of which can be done in the
areas under display, Bluetooth, sounds, back light etc. I see that my
Razr has the features as well but easier to do. I also own the Vx8300
and I have better battery life than on the Razr. Just replaced the
Razr's battery after less than a year.

Elector
EB - 29 Oct 2006 13:49 GMT
>>> There is a battery saver mode in the menu options.

> On page 93 of the owners manual it states as a battery life extender
> to turn off or limit certain features. All of which can be done in the
> areas under display, Bluetooth, sounds, back light etc.

ah .. ok, I think I'm already doing those. Based on your original
post I thought there was a dedicated menu option that let you put
it into low-power (ie battery saver) mode. Thanks for clarifying.

eb
Ange1o DePa1ma - 30 Oct 2006 00:59 GMT
It appears everything is turned off on my phone. So there is no "power
saving" setting, right?

adp

>>> There is a battery saver mode in the menu options.
>>
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>
> Elector
Elector - 30 Oct 2006 01:39 GMT
> It appears everything is turned off on my phone. So there is no
> "power saving" setting, right?
>
> adp

Yep that would be right. I noticed on my Razr there is a battery saver
mode. But On my Vx8300 it does not other than turning off or modifying
certain functions under the tools menu. Strange in deed. So strange I
had to look at the owners manual last evening.

Elector
EB - 28 Oct 2006 19:14 GMT
> I used to sing the praises of the LG VX8300's power management. Recently,
> I've been finding that it loses power rather quickly. I had 1-2 bars two
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> Are there any settings that will keep the phone from sucking juice out of
> the battery when it's not in use? Or can this just be a bad battery?

hi,

i don't think the vx8300 has a great battery life, esp compared to my
audiovox 8900 I had before.

turning off gps locate and bluetooth will help, as will shortening the
time the backscreen in on. i think i shortened the time to 15 secs on
mine.

not sure about other things, though i would be curious to find out what
if other things can be done.

eb
S.P. - 30 Oct 2006 04:47 GMT
>> I used to sing the praises of the LG VX8300's power management. Recently,
>> I've been finding that it loses power rather quickly. I had 1-2 bars two
>> days ago and hardly used the phone. Today when I went to power up it was
>> dead.

Check for a bad battery.  My 8300 developed one after a couple of months...
I had the same symptoms and more, like a battery life indicator that
sometimes went up after use.  The battery had a slight but noticeable bulge.
That was enough for Verizon to swap it out.
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 30 Oct 2006 14:41 GMT
> I used to sing the praises of the LG VX8300's power management. Recently,
> I've been finding that it loses power rather quickly. I had 1-2 bars two
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> Are there any settings that will keep the phone from sucking juice out of
> the battery when it's not in use? Or can this just be a bad battery?

You can shut off EVDO if you don't use it.  That helps, in particular, if you
are in an area of fringe EVDO signal.  

It sounds to me like your battery has gone defective.  My Wife and I both have
that phone and we each get several days between charges.  Actually, I lied.
My wife goes about four or five days between charges.  I usually charge when
the battery indicator drops down one bar from full (still 4 out of 5 bars),
and that is usually every other day.

BTW, it is hard on Lithium Ion or Lithium Polymer batteries to let them go
dead.  The function best moderately to fully charged.  Letting them go dead or
nearly so reduces the battery life.  I recommend that you replace the battery
and then consider charging it every night .. or when the battery shows signs
of beginning to lose power from full (for me, that is every other day, but I
can easily go every three days and still avoid a low charge on the battery).

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EB - 30 Oct 2006 19:27 GMT
>> I used to sing the praises of the LG VX8300's power management. Recently,
>> I've been finding that it loses power rather quickly. I had 1-2 bars two
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> You can shut off EVDO if you don't use it.  That helps, in particular, if you
> are in an area of fringe EVDO signal.  

Hi,

do you do that in the service menu? Under Mode preference?
I see 4 choices there .. which one should I select to turn
off EVDO -- I do live in a fringe area.

the choice are:

digital only hybrid (currently selected)
digital only non hybrid
hdr only
1x only

thanks
eb
EB - 31 Oct 2006 00:06 GMT
> the choice are:
>
> digital only hybrid (currently selected)
> digital only non hybrid
> hdr only
> 1x only

I selected "1x only" and that seem to do the trick though
I am not quite sure what the other two choices are.

eb
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 31 Oct 2006 14:47 GMT
>> the choice are:
>>
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> I selected "1x only" and that seem to do the trick though
> I am not quite sure what the other two choices are.

If you select 1x only, your phone will not work in areas that do not support
1x (there are still CDMA towers that do not support 1x somewhere I am sure).

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EB - 31 Oct 2006 17:15 GMT
>>> the choice are:
>>>
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> If you select 1x only, your phone will not work in areas that do not support
> 1x (there are still CDMA towers that do not support 1x somewhere I am sure).

Hi, can you tell me what would be a better choice to
select to deactivate EVDO?

Thanks!

eb
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 31 Oct 2006 18:54 GMT
>> If you select 1x only, your phone will not work in areas that do not support
>> 1x (there are still CDMA towers that do not support 1x somewhere I am sure).
>
> Hi, can you tell me what would be a better choice to
> select to deactivate EVDO?

1x only may be the only way.  I am curious whether the phone will work in
non-1x voice areas while in this mode, but I suspect not.

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EB - 04 Nov 2006 12:19 GMT
>>> the choice are:
>>>
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> If you select 1x only, your phone will not work in areas that do not support
> 1x (there are still CDMA towers that do not support 1x somewhere I am sure).

Thanks for the info, I will keep this in mind.

Just as a follow up -- ever since making the change in the
settings my battery life has improved quite dramatically. Whereas
before I would start loosing a bar a day or even more, I have had
full bars on the battery indicator for the last few days w/o having
to recharge. (I don't use the phone very much in either case).

I have 1x service where I live and in Cleveland where I drive to
fairly frequently. I have to remember to try other settings if
I ever end up in an area where I can't get service, but for
my regular day to day usage in the place I live, having the 1x only
setting is definitely the way to go as I don't have to continuously
worry about running out of juice.

cheers,

eb
Jim Higgins - 04 Nov 2006 15:46 GMT
>>>> the choice are:
>>>>
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>
> eb

Page 93 of my manual for the VX8300 makes no mention of this, it just talks
"Charger and Adapter Safety" and "Battery Information and Care".  What is
EVDO and where can it be turned off in the menu structure?  I just got the
basic phone services with no V Cast.  I have seen the EVDO icon at times and
1X all the time.  The display is set for 5 seconds and the sound levels are
turned down but I can't find mention of EVDO in my manual, definately not in
the index.
EB - 04 Nov 2006 16:01 GMT
>>>>> the choice are:
>>>>>
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>>>> I selected "1x only" and that seem to do the trick though
>>>> I am not quite sure what the other two choices are.

<...>

> Page 93 of my manual for the VX8300 makes no mention of this, it just talks
> "Charger and Adapter Safety" and "Battery Information and Care".  What is
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> turned down but I can't find mention of EVDO in my manual, definately not in
> the index.

I've read (and my own observation seems to confirm this) that if you
are in a fringe EVDO area the battery is used up much faster. I have
1x consistently, but the EVDO indicator would come on and off.

There is a service menu (use at your own risk disclaimer). Push
the OK button, and then enter a series of zeros (I don't know
exactly how many, you'll see a bunch of ??? as you enter, they will
go away).

You'll be in a menu then, check under network preferences (or something
similar), there you can see the settings I mentioned above.

Hope that helps,

eb

ps: be careful not to change setting elsewhere in the menus if
    you aren't sure what they do .. i don't mess with those settings.
    under the original software for the phone (which i still have) you
    could also enable the mp3 capability of the phone. i understand that
    with the recent software revision this is enabled by default.
Jim Higgins - 04 Nov 2006 16:35 GMT
>>>>>> the choice are:
>>>>>>
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>     could also enable the mp3 capability of the phone. i understand that
>     with the recent software revision this is enabled by default.

Got it.  Under "Services" I have 1) Service Prg., 2) Field Tests, 3) Network
Select, 4) Data, 5) SMS, 6) H/W Test, 7) FCC Test, 8) WAP Setting, 9) Get It
Now Settings, 10 Battery Test and 11) Music Setting.

Under "Network Select" I selected "Mode Preference" and under that I
selected "1X Only".  Was this the way to extend the battery life more if you
only wanted basic stuff?  The original selection was "Digital Only Hybrid".
I assume that if I got in trouble from fiddling around that *228 and
"program your phone" would get me back to the original default?

Is there a link to a web site that discusses the "Service Menu" choices?
EB - 04 Nov 2006 16:56 GMT
> Got it.  
>
> Under "Network Select" I selected "Mode Preference" and under that I
> selected "1X Only".  Was this the way to extend the battery life more if you
> only wanted basic stuff?  The original selection was "Digital Only Hybrid".

Yes, that's what I did and it seems to work fine. As someone else posted you
may be in areas where this may not work and you might have to try to re-able
the original setting, but I think 1x is pretty wide spread.

> I assume that if I got in trouble from fiddling around that *228 and
> "program your phone" would get me back to the original default?

not sure, I somewhat doubt it though.

> Is there a link to a web site that discusses the "Service Menu" choices?

There is always howards forums (google for it), lots of info on various
cell phones. You might find some info there.

Cheers,
eb
EB - 19 Nov 2006 23:23 GMT
>>>>>>> the choice are:
>>>>>>>
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>
> Is there a link to a web site that discusses the "Service Menu" choices?

You are welcome.
 
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