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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / April 2007Data Plan
I was told that if I wanted a pda at discount price, I would have to get their data package for $44.00. Also was told that I could cancel that package at anytime with no penalty. I have been trying to find a copy of the data contract and havent been able to find it. Can anyone help?? KEN >I was told that if I wanted a pda at discount price, I would have to >get their data package for $44.00. Also was told that I could cancel >that package at anytime with no penalty. I have been trying to find a >copy of the data contract and havent been able to find it. Can anyone >help?? >KEN Who told you that? Verizon does not carry PDAs. They have no data pkg for $44.00. Either you are bullshitting or "someone" is blowing smoke up your a.s. >> I was told that if I wanted a pda at discount price, I would have to >> get their data package for $44.00. Also was told that I could cancel [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Either you are bullshitting or "someone" is blowing smoke up your a.s. I'd imagine the OP is referring to "Handhelds," which Verizon refers to as "PDAs & Smartphones." And, yes, there are data plans in the $44 ballpark, although I'm pretty sure they require a contract.  SignatureNotan > >I was told that if I wanted a pda at discount price, I would have to > >get their data package for $44.00. Also was told that I could cancel [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Either you are bullshitting or "someone" is blowing smoke up your a.s. Palm OS devices are PDAs. VZW sells the Palm-powered 700p (which I have). I am also paying $44/month for an unlimited data plan for that 700p...no BS and no smoke. --Mike >Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: >>I was told that if I wanted a pda at discount price, I would have to >>get their data package for $44.00. Also was told that I could cancel [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Either you are bullshitting or "someone" is blowing smoke up your a.s. I use a Verizon XV6600 PDA/phone. Unlimited data is $44.99/month. I use wModem to tether it to my laptop via the USB sync cable, and my wife uses a Bluetooth adapter to tether hers to it. With the unlimited data plan, we even get data access in almost all "Extended Network" areas. Works good, last a long time. SignatureDave Which kind do you have? I noticed the Q and the 700p could be tethered, but that the 700w could not. Weird. -Frank > >Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Works good, last a long time. You can tether the 700w with PDA2Net software. > Which kind do you have? I noticed the Q and the 700p could be tethered, > but that the 700w could not. Weird. > > -Frank >>Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Works good, last a long time. I read the store flyers and it said that phone can't be used as a modem for a computer or laptop, and I even have the USB data cable. How did you manage that ? Signature==================================================================== | Etop Udoh | Http://www.geocities.com/sdruid11 | | P.O. Box 1054| Http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/sdruid | [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] |sdruid11@earthlink.net |sdruid11@bellsouth.net |sdruid11@yahoo.com| | !! ..........Peace and Love to All......... !! | ==================================================================== >> I use a Verizon XV6600 PDA/phone. Unlimited data is $44.99/month. I use >> wModem to tether it to my laptop via the USB sync cable, and my wife [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >for a computer or laptop, and I even have the USB data cable. How did >you manage that ? Not sure what the XV-6600 is unless he is referring to a XV-6700. The 6700 cannot be used to tether. >>> I use a Verizon XV6600 PDA/phone. Unlimited data is $44.99/month. I use >>> wModem to tether it to my laptop via the USB sync cable, and my wife [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Not sure what the XV-6600 is unless he is referring to a XV-6700. The > 6700 cannot be used to tether. i have had a vx6600 and a vx6700 and i was able to set up a blue tooth connection between it and my laptop with good results speed was good in a EVDO area but barely above dial up in a non EVDO area, check the howard forams web site for how to do this >tom <tom@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> I use a Verizon XV6600 PDA/phone. Unlimited data is $44.99/month. I use >>>> wModem to tether it to my laptop via the USB sync cable, and my wife [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >a EVDO area but barely above dial up in a non EVDO area, check the >howard forams web site for how to do this In my experience, in an EVDO area the Bluetooth tether on my XV6600 performs at around 200-400 kbps, and the USB tether at around 400-800 kbps. I have used it in about ten EVDO areas around the country. In non-EVDO areas, I get 100-140 kbps downloads with both. The latency involved with cellular connections, though, makes web surfing not much different from dialup in non-EVDO areas. SignatureDave >Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: >>> I use a Verizon XV6600 PDA/phone. Unlimited data is $44.99/month. I use >>> wModem to tether it to my laptop via the USB sync cable, and my wife [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>for a computer or laptop, and I even have the USB data cable. How did >>you manage that ? >Not sure what the XV-6600 is unless he is referring to a XV-6700. Try Googling "XV6600". I use my Verizon XV6600 tethered to my laptop. I can tether it via Bluetooth with no additional software. I downloaded a copy of wModem to use it with the USB cable. > The 6700 cannot be used to tether. I guess you mean either *you* can't tether a 6700 <g> or Verizon doesn't support tethering the XV6700. The XV6700 can certainly be tethered. I have read postings from users who say that it even ships with a copy of wModem on the CD that comes with the phone. Again, try Googling "tethered xv6700". SignatureDave >> The 6700 cannot be used to tether. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >who say that it even ships with a copy of wModem on the CD that comes >with the phone. In the latest brochure which I picked up yesterday the XV6700 as not able to act as "Tethered Modem with Broadband Access Connect". Maybe you are accessing the internet via some other protocol? >Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: >>> The 6700 cannot be used to tether. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Maybe you are accessing the internet via some other protocol? Ah, I see the reason for the confusion. "BroadbandAccess Connect" is a $59.99/month data plan (less for Blackberry devices) for various phones, smartphones, and PDA/phones to support tethering. (http://preview.tinyurl.com/2gqtfk) With an XV-6700, you buy a "PDA/Smartphone Unlimited MB" plan (that's what my bill says) for $44.99/month. Verizon does not provide support for tethering these devices as part of that plan, but it's trivial to do, at least with the 6600 and 6700 devices. Again, I am using an XV6600, but I am reporting what users of the XV6700 have said. They use wModem, which is included on the XV6700 CD. I had to download a copy to use with my XV6600. Here are the directions for tethering the XV6700: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=827559 Hope that helps. SignatureDave >Ah, I see the reason for the confusion. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Here are the directions for tethering the XV6700: >http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=827559 Yea it does Dave. So who/what do you use for an ISP? pegleg >Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: >>Ah, I see the reason for the confusion. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >pegleg Since Verizon requires a data plan with a PDA/phone, Verizon is the ISP. Dial #777, use the usual VZW user ID/password, etc. I still have my Internet Alaska POP account, simply to maintain the email address I have had for 11 years, and I use gmail for SMTP services. SignatureDave >>Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >email address I have had for 11 years, and I use gmail for SMTP >services. Thanks again Dave. I've used #777 off and on over many years, probably back to the mid 90s when I tethered my cell phone to my Palm Pilot. I still use it occasionally with my Moto V710 and Axim X51v or my laptop but have no data plan...I know, I know! :-) There's a package that will get you unlimited data for a little less...maybe $39.99...that includes 2000 text messages also. Remember, in a Smartphone/Datphone device, txt messages are not "data" to Verizon. >I was told that if I wanted a pda at discount price, I would have to > get their data package for $44.00. Also was told that I could cancel > that package at anytime with no penalty. I have been trying to find a > copy of the data contract and havent been able to find it. Can anyone > help?? > KEN "Paul G" <pgloe@optonline.net> wrote in news:XxuUh.31$Uh6.20 @newsfe12.lga: > There's a package that will get you unlimited data Simply not true: Verizon's legaleze says: "UNLIMITED DATA PLANS AND FEATURES Unlimited Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation). The Unlimited Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices or host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine–to–machine connections or peer–to–peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet, downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a month. For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is using an Unlimited Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term" $60/month buys you 5GB/month of email, webpage spam and company intranet....no downloading/streaming/FTP/P2P/TV/Radio/UPloading/gaming...all forbidden, see above. In the cellphone dictionary, "unlimited" only means you can access it any time, not actually USE it. 5GB and you're TOAST! http://www.evdoforums.com/thread2366.html Larry -- > I was told that if I wanted a pda at discount price, I would have to > get their data package for $44.00. Also was told that I could cancel > that package at anytime with no penalty. I have been trying to find a > copy of the data contract and havent been able to find it. Can anyone > help?? > KEN There are actually 3 data plan options....(1) pay as you go, (2) $25.00 for 10 mb plan, and (3) unlimited plan for whatever the price is ($39 is what I remember hearing). I just got a new XV-6700 with the full data plan (3) and still trying to figure out how to use it. Signature==================================================================== | Etop Udoh | Http://www.geocities.com/sdruid11 | | P.O. Box 1054| Http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/sdruid | [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] |sdruid11@earthlink.net |sdruid11@bellsouth.net |sdruid11@yahoo.com| | !! ..........Peace and Love to All......... !! | ==================================================================== > There are actually 3 data plan options....(1) pay as you go, (2) >$25.00 for 10 mb plan, and (3) unlimited plan for whatever the price is >($39 is what I remember hearing). > I just got a new XV-6700 with the full data plan (3) and still trying >to figure out how to use it. The unlimited data plan you are referring to, I believe, is $44.99 if it is with a qualifying calling plan. Hopefully you aren't planning on tethering with the XV-6700. >Etop Udoh <sdruid11@bellsouth.net> wrote: > There are actually 3 data plan options....(1) pay as you go, (2) >$25.00 for 10 mb plan, and (3) unlimited plan for whatever the price is >($39 is what I remember hearing). > I just got a new XV-6700 with the full data plan (3) and still trying >to figure out how to use it. Here's one set of directions for doing that: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=827559 BTW, the unlimited data plan for these PDA/phones is $44.99/month. SignatureDave "BTW, the unlimited data plan for these PDA/phones is $44.99/month" Mine is less, and it includes 2000 text messages. I use it with the 700w treo. It's called the "PDA SMS 2000 allowance" and it's 39.99 > >Etop Udoh <sdruid11@bellsouth.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > BTW, the unlimited data plan for these PDA/phones is $44.99/month. >"BTW, the unlimited data plan for these PDA/phones is $44.99/month" > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> BTW, the unlimited data plan for these PDA/phones is $44.99/month. Where are these data plans? The plans I see for smart/pda phones start at $79.99. >Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: >>> BTW, the unlimited data plan for these PDA/phones is $44.99/month. > >Where are these data plans? The plans I see for smart/pda phones start >at $79.99. I don't see them on the web site any more. When I select a PDA/phone now, it comes up with bundled NationalAccess/voice plans, with no Broadband connectivity: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yquvaa Apparently, you now add the "BroadbandAccess Connect Plan" (for $15/mo) to the "Voice and Data Choice Bundle": http://preview.tinyurl.com/2b6kjq At $79.99 for 450 data and voice minutes, plus $15 for unlimited (OK, up to 5 GB) Broadband and NationalAccess, that's $94.99/month, about $10 more than I am paying for 400 voice minutes plus unlimited data under my old plan. Thanks for forcing me to plow through the VZW web pages to find current pricing. <g> SignatureDave >I don't see them on the web site any more. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Thanks for forcing me to plow through the VZW web pages to find current >pricing. <g> I guess everyone was referring to pricing form an earlier purchase. I recall seeing the $59.99 pricing a few weeks back but it isn't there now. Why would you have to add the $15.00/mo plan for unlimited BB/NA if you get voice&data for $79? If the lowest cost voice/data/bb choice is $95/month that cuts me out, just can't afford that. $59 was okay, $79 would be a squeeze, $95 is not a choice. >Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: >>I don't see them on the web site any more. >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Why would you have to add the $15.00/mo plan for unlimited BB/NA if you >get voice&data for $79? I don't see unlimited BB for $79. The $79.99 bundled NationalAccess/voice plan for PDA/Smartphones is NA only, no BB >If the lowest cost voice/data/bb choice is $95/month that cuts me out, >just can't afford that. $59 was okay, $79 would be a squeeze, $95 is >not a choice. That seems to be the cheapest available for those services, from what I can glean from their web site. Another option is a BB capable phone, like the Samsung SCH-a990. You can get 450 minutes for $39.99 and add BB for $59.99, but that's even more expensive. SignatureDave >>Why would you have to add the $15.00/mo plan for unlimited BB/NA if you >>get voice&data for $79? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>just can't afford that. $59 was okay, $79 would be a squeeze, $95 is >>not a choice. I guess I don't understand the definitions of BB/National Access. I thought data was data. I'm assuming there are limitations on NA (speed?/ kb allowance?) that are less than unlimited (5gb) BB? They sure don't make it easy to make an intelligent choice! This has me seriously considering changing carriers, which previously I didn't think I would do. We were considering dropping our landline providing I can get decent cell reception here at the house with a yagi and repeater atenna inside and a decent data account so my wife has it when she travels. Doesn't look real feasible with verizon now. thanks for your help! >Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote: >I guess I don't understand the definitions of BB/National Access. I >thought data was data. I'm assuming there are limitations on NA >(speed?/ kb allowance?) that are less than unlimited (5gb) BB? NA service is available in all native Verizon areas. With a data plan, it is also available in most "Extended Network" areas. We travel full time throughout the Lower 48, with occasional trips to Alaska. In the Lower 48, we have had NA service at least 95% of the time for the last four or five years. NA tops out at 144 kbps. Typical download speeds are 100-130 kbps, while upload speeds are 60-80 kbps, in our experience. There is no apparent limit on how much data you can transfer each month with NA, but at those speeds you would have a hard time exceeding 5 GB. BB is available only in metropolitan areas. Verizon says that they cover 200 million people with their current BB service. That is probably true, but as RVers we seldom stay in metropolitan areas. We have been in 10 or 12 such areas since Verizon introduced it. BB (EVDO Rev. 0) tops out at 2.1 Mbps download and 144 kbps upload. Typical speeds for us have been 400-800 kbps down and 60-80 kbps up. They are currently rolling out EVDO Rev. A, which requires different user hardware. They say that Rev. A will do a maximum of 3.1 Mbps down and 1.8 Mbps up. Importantly for web surfing, Rev. A also reduces latency, which is what make web browsing relatively slow on cellular connections. >They sure don't make it easy to make an intelligent choice! Amen. >This has me seriously considering changing carriers, which previously I >didn't think I would do. We were considering dropping our landline >providing I can get decent cell reception here at the house with a yagi >and repeater atenna inside and a decent data account so my wife has it >when she travels. Doesn't look real feasible with verizon now. Depending where you want to use the service, Verizon may not be the best choice. For those of us who are never in one place for very long, Verizon offers the best national service. I have even had good NA in several Alaska locations. >thanks for your help! SignatureDave > I guess I don't understand the definitions of BB/National Access. I > thought data was data. I'm assuming there are limitations on NA [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > thanks for your help! It seems like you are basing everything on the website. I would give CS a call or pop into a store. I have found on a number of occasions that websites don't offer every possible combination probably for simplicity's sake. |
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