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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / December 2007Any way to disable need for password when dialing voicemail from phone
I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail from my phone. Is there a way to set this up? Thanks On Dec 27, 3:37 am, techman41...@yahoo.com wrote: > I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my > phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail > from my phone. > Is there a way to set this up? > Thanks can program your password altogether with *86 into contacts. Will need to use pauses, thou - see your phone manual. gk <gk.latv@excite.com> wrote in news:9e82e117-6218-4292-acff- 667f5afa26b1@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: > On Dec 27, 3:37 am, techman41...@yahoo.com wrote: >> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > can program your password altogether with *86 into contacts. > Will need to use pauses, thou - see your phone manual. I have Motorola phones, here. To call voicemail automatically, including with voice, I made an entry in the regular phone book called "BitchBox"...(c; For the number, I entered my own SELLphone number, some pauses, the passcode numbers. The entire call is automated. Just press the voicedial button on the headset and say: "Call Bitchbox" It dials its own number, waits for 3 pause periods for Alltel's voicemail greeting to ask for the password, then touchtones in my passcode numbers. 555-555-5555ppp87654321pp1 (number) passcode (1 command) The extra pp1 on the end is because on Alltel the voice tells you to dial 1 to hear your messages. Play around with how many p (pauses) it takes to do it in a minimal length of time and you'll have automated the whole process. Of course, if someone steals your phone, HE has the passcode to your voicemail, too....if that matters. Larry  SignatureI worked hard under Social Security since I was 12. My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month. Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations? >I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my >phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail >from my phone. >Is there a way to set this up? My phone lets me change the voicemail number so I added the password: *86 (pause) (pause) (password) >> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my >> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > My phone lets me change the voicemail number so I added the password: > *86 (pause) (pause) (password) I have found that the pauses are no longer required. It's been at least a year, perhaps longer that the voicemail seems to buffer the entire incoming number stream. Q >I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my >phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail >from my phone. >Is there a way to set this up? >Thanks You are right! It should recognize the phone and eliminate the need to put in the password. BUT it won't. Everyone else is telling you how to handle it, but It shouldn't need to be handled. It should be is handled at the Verizon end. My guess is that they don't because you spend time waiting for prompts and keying in the password. And as they say - time is money. jk <kend99@hotmail.com> wrote in news:dbl8n390kfcv0l3cb7541rdjjuqru62fjc@ 4ax.com: >>I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my >>phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > you spend time waiting for prompts and keying in the password. And as > they say - time is money. And you are confident enough to have Verizon handling it just knowing the phone and not the person using the phone? If so, can I borrow your phone when they fix this? > > You are right! It should recognize the phone and eliminate the need > > to put in the password. BUT it won't. Everyone else is telling you [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > phone and not the person using the phone? If so, can I borrow your phone > when they fix this? To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you have to enter a password when calling from your own phone. Verizon could offer the option for those who choose that level of security, rather than play nanny for everyone. >> > You are right! It should recognize the phone and eliminate the >> > need to put in the password. BUT it won't. Everyone else is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you > have to enter a password when calling from your own phone. Which carriers? I don't remember this ever being an option. > Verizon could offer the option for those who choose that level of > security, rather than play nanny for everyone. > Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in >> To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you >> have to enter a password when calling from your own phone. > > Which carriers? AT&T >>> To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you >>> have to enter a password when calling from your own phone. >> >> Which carriers? > > AT&T and Sprint. And maybe T-Mo. SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol >Which carriers? I don't remember this ever being an option. So switch carriers if it bothers you that much...otherwise just setup a "contact" for voicemail that automatically sends your pw when it connects! >>Which carriers? I don't remember this ever being an option. > > So switch carriers if it bothers you that much...otherwise just setup a > "contact" for voicemail that automatically sends your pw when it > connects! Who said it bothered me? I simply asked a question. > > To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you > > have to enter a password when calling from your own phone. > > Which carriers? I don't remember this ever being an option. T-Mobile has it as an option in their voicemail setup menu, as did Cingular in the old TDMA days (the last time I used them.) AFAIK, AT&T no longer offers the option (their VM defaults to no password needed, apparently, since it made an acquaintence of mine switch to Verizon since he needed the assurance if he accidentally left his phone at a client's place, they couldn't listen to his VMs. >>> To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not >>> you have to enter a password when calling from your own phone. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Verizon since he needed the assurance if he accidentally left his > phone at a client's place, they couldn't listen to his VMs. There you go. A pretty steep price to pay for a rather small inconvenience (ie. entering a password). Good anecdote. > There you go. A pretty steep price to pay for a rather small inconvenience > (ie. entering a password). Good anecdote. I'm not sure I feel as strongly about it myself, but he often had confidential info about other clients in his VM that would be inappropriate to leave unprotected. T-Mo gives you the option and I chose not to have a password prompt when calling from the handset when I used their VM system (I use a Visual Voicemail system these days,) but then again my handset automatically password locks after 10 minutes of non-use, so anyone stealing or finding it better move quickly! >> There you go. A pretty steep price to pay for a rather small > inconvenience [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > automatically password locks after 10 minutes of non-use, so anyone > stealing or finding it better move quickly! Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can with other carriers? > Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can > with other carriers? I assume you mean a true backdoor (without making the phone ring?) on T- Mo's system. I've never seen such a backdoor number posted. Obviously you can access the VM by calling the mobile phone- that always requires a VM password, regardless of settings. >> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can >> with other carriers? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Obviously you can access the VM by calling the mobile phone- that > always requires a VM password, regardless of settings. I was talking the second option. So you are saying that I can set up voicemail with no password, but then would need a password if I accessed VM by calling the phone? When is that password set up? I'm actually not trying to be a smartass here- honest questions. > >> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can > >> with other carriers? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I'm actually not trying to be a smartass here- honest questions. Understood! The password creation is a forced option when you first setup your mailbox. The next question the VRU asks is if you want to require it when calling from your own cellphone. If you never set up your mailbox, (i.e. a new account) a default is used (it's been so long that I don't remember if the default is a fixed set of digits like "1111" or the last 4 of your phone number.) >> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can >> with other carriers? > > I assume you mean a true backdoor (without making the phone ring?) on T- > Mo's system. I've never seen such a backdoor number posted. The number is 1-805-637-7243. I've use it with my mother's prepaid T-Mobile account. There is an option to leave a message for a T-Mobile subscriber, or to access the voice mail system if you are a T-Mobile subscriber. > The number is 1-805-637-7243. I've use it with my mother's prepaid > T-Mobile account. There is an option to leave a message for a T-Mobile > subscriber, or to access the voice mail system if you are a T-Mobile > subscriber. That's right, and it's been programmed as the voice mail number on all of the T-Mo phones we've owned since signing on with T-Mo in 2005. It would probably be easier to memorize it as 1-805-MESSAGE. SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol That will get you to your voicemail. But you still have to enter your password. >>> There you go. A pretty steep price to pay for a rather small >> inconvenience [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > other > carriers? "Richard" <rick749@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4777e94c$0$13905 $607ed4bc@cv.net: > That will get you to your voicemail. But you still have to enter your > password. What if there is no password on the VM account? > Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can with other > carriers? That's not a back door. A back door is being able to leave a message for someone, or check your voicemail, by calling a regular phone number. For T-Mobile, it's 1-805-637-7243. Verizon has a bunch of local back door numbers. =?UTF-8?B?U01TIOaWr+iSguaWh+KAoiDlpI8=?= <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:477817f1$0$84247$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net: >> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can with >> other carriers? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > number. For T-Mobile, it's 1-805-637-7243. Verizon has a bunch of > local back door numbers. A back door is any way to get into VM other than dialing it with the cellphone. > A back door is any way to get into VM other than dialing it with the > cellphone. http://tinyurl.com/34fwv8 Google results for *back door cell phone voice mail numbers* > A back door is any way to get into VM other than dialing it with the > cellphone. I'm with Steven on this one- typically, in common parlance, a "backdoor" is a way to access the VM system without ringing the phone itself- calling the phone's own number, (the "front door,") to access VM is simply remote retrieval. >> A back door is any way to get into VM other than dialing it with the >> cellphone. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > itself- calling the phone's own number, (the "front door,") to access > VM is simply remote retrieval. And we could play the technicality game all week if you want. What has yet to be addressed is if a password is required when entering VM by calling the cell, and if so, when is the password set up when no password is used to access it on the cell. Or we can try and beat the definition of back door into the ground. I'll leave it to the anal retentive of the group to decide. > And we could play the technicality game all week if you want. I don't want to, (although admittedly your choice of phrase confused me!) > What has yet > to be addressed is if a password is required when entering VM by calling > the cell, and if so, when is the password set up when no password is used > to access it on the cell. I answered that in my very next post after the one you just quoted, but in case you missed it: the password selection is required when you first setup your VM box, (probably just like every other carrier) and T-Mo's password on/off option ONLY affects calls from the cellphone to the cellphone's own mailbox- any remote VM access calls from any other phone (regardless of what "door" they come in!) ALWAYS require the password. Period. > Or we can try and beat the definition of back door into the ground. I'll > leave it to the anal retentive of the group to decide. We're a pretty multi-tasking group- I'm sure we can handle both! ;-) >And we could play the technicality game all week if you want. What has yet >to be addressed is if a password is required when entering VM by calling >the cell, and if so, when is the password set up when no password is used >to access it on the cell. On my new T-Mobile phone, voice mail has a password. It is not possible (as far as I know) to remove it. There is some default value assigned. There is also a security flag. If the security flag is off, you do not have to enter your voice mail password when accessing voice mail from the handset. If the security flag is on, you must enter the voice mail password when accessing voice mail from the handset. Regardless of the security flag, you must enter the voice mail password when calling in any other way (calling the handset from another phone or calling 1-805-MESSAGE, for example). The default is OFF, so a new customer can call voicemail from the handset, set a password, and turn the security flag on if desired without having to know the default password. It's also true that if you let me use your handset unattended and you leave the voicemail security flag off, I can change the password (and optionally turn on the security flag to lock you out), then access your voice mail from elsewhere. Setting up an online account is done by requesting a temporary password online, which is sent to the phone, you log in with that, and set a permanent password. There are a confusing array of passwords with this phone, and they didn't give me any of them. In addition to the voicemail password and online password, there's a SIM PIN2 password, a security password, and an unlock password, maybe more. And there's two definitions of "unlock": "This phone is locked to T-Mobile" and "I locked the phone before putting it in my luggage so if it's stolen a thief can't use it". I don't expect them to tell me the first one until my contract is up, but the second would be useful to have. T-Mobile could be better about putting multiple conflicting sets of setup instructions in the box. I spent about 10 minutes thinking "oh, crap, I lost the SIM card" when they had already inserted it into the phone. I thought I had to call to activate the phone to get a phone number, when that had already been done before they shipped. It would have been nice to tell me my phone number, guys. >Or we can try and beat the definition of back door into the ground. I'll >leave it to the anal retentive of the group to decide. > A back door is any way to get into VM other than dialing it with the > cellphone. No, it's a way to get into voice mail without making the phone on the number you're calling ring. Often you just want to leave a message for someone without the phone ringing. Fortunately most carriers have back door access. See "http://www.bridog.net/cellular/voicemail.txt" for a list. >> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my >> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > you spend time waiting for prompts and keying in the password. And as > they say - time is money. That's a pretty cynical viewpoint guy. As a couple of other people have pointed out on this thread, some users wouldn't want their voicemail accessible if they lost, or had stolen, their phone. I'm one of those. The solutions suggested in this thread sure seem simple enough to implement if that's the way you want to go. >>> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my >>> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The solutions suggested in this thread sure seem simple enough to implement > if that's the way you want to go. Same here, I like the idea of being pro security. I don't want someone to be able to access my voicemail simply because I lost or misplaced the phone. > I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my > phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail > from my phone. > Is there a way to set this up? > Thanks How about if someone else borrowed or stole your phone?? > How about if someone else borrowed or stole your phone?? You could key-lock the phone to prevent it from calling voicemail (or anyone else.) >> How about if someone else borrowed or stole your phone?? > > You could key-lock the phone to prevent it from calling voicemail (or > anyone else.) Yep. That's more convenient than entering a password. Perhaps you could lock the phone in a safe with a four number combination. Then you wouldn't need to have a password on your voicemail. ;-) Just a-funnin' folks. Don't get all to flaming me now... > > You could key-lock the phone to prevent it from calling voicemail (or > > anyone else.) > > Yep. That's more convenient than entering a password. No, it's not, but in my case, carrying a Windows Mobile phone, I sometimes have a lot of sensitive data on my phone. The least of my problems, if my phone were lost or stolen, would be someone accessing my voicemail. Password-locking my phone is a major PITA, but a necessary one. At least you can answer without unlocking! ;-) > Perhaps you could > lock the phone in a safe with a four number combination. Then you wouldn't > need to have a password on your voicemail. ;-) Now THAT'S secure! I can see Krusell or someone running with your idea and selling little miniature cast-iron combination-safe/cellphone-cases that clip to your belt! ;-) > Just a-funnin' folks. Don't get all to flaming me now... Understood, and thanks for the chuckle! Happy New Year... |
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