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susie - 20 Feb 2008 02:43 GMT

The release of software from a firm run by a notorious Norwegian
hacker is likely to cause waves in the music and film download world.

more here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7253542.stm

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Larry - 20 Feb 2008 03:26 GMT

susie <susielou12@gmail.com> wrote in news:2f8acb55-d416-4994-8fe9-
a542e6805a6a@q70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7253542.stm

"It would allow songs bought on Apple's iTunes to be shared on other
devices."

Why would it matter? Don't you guys have access to binary newsgroups?

God, who should care! There isn't enough bandwidth in your TOWN to get
what's available across alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(all the genres here) that
was posted YESTERDAY! Why would anyone care what iTuney does??

Your lifetime couldn't play all that was posted LAST MONTH!

How silly....

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CellGuy - 20 Feb 2008 14:16 GMT

> susie <susielou12@gmail.com> wrote in news:2f8acb55-d416-4994-8fe9-
> a542e6805a6a@q70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> How silly....

It's a good thing the average internet user doesn't know about UseNet. If
it becomes mainstream it will be attacked by the copyright music police.

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David Matthew Wood - 20 Feb 2008 16:54 GMT

> > susie <susielou12@gmail.com> wrote in news:2f8acb55-d416-4994-8fe9-
> > a542e6805a6a@q70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> It's a good thing the average internet user doesn't know about UseNet. If
> it becomes mainstream it will be attacked by the copyright music police.

A bit late on that, I'm afraid....

http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9798715-38.html

grrrrrr

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Larry - 20 Feb 2008 17:59 GMT

David Matthew Wood <nodmwood78@verizonspam.net> wrote in news:nodmwood78-
1C3D43.11543920022008@news.verizon.net:

> http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9798715-38.html

At some point, I suspect Usenet will be, first, free of binaries, then,
lost. The binaries are keeping most server farms in business. Without
them, like Google, users will expect free, which isn't going to support
itself.

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Larry - 20 Feb 2008 17:53 GMT

> It's a good thing the average internet user doesn't know about UseNet.
> If it becomes mainstream it will be attacked by the copyright music
> police.

It has been the target of the RIAA for many years. But, unlike the IP
traps that are so easy to set up in P2P sharing environments straight to
the RIAA lawyer's and investigator's offices, Usenet is very hard to
track as no records are kept other than the easy-to-falsify headers.

The millions of downloaders are calling local systems or hired systems
and no record of what they download is kept as it would be a MONSTER to
track! So, they might go after the posters.

Of course, not all posters have the technical knowhow to hide. Case in
point:
From: naebdi@naewir.net (DarkStar88)
Sender: naebdi@naewir.net
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s,alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indie
Subject: The Cramps - Fiends Of Dope Island - 2003 (192kbps) [18/23] -
"00-fiends_of_dope_island-advance-2003-esc.nfo" (1/1)
X-Newsposter: YENC-POWER-POST-A&A-v11b (Modified POWER-POST
www.CosmicWolf.com)
Lines: 91
Message-ID: <5XOuj.2476$ab5.1728@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:31:45 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.1.196.26
X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com
X-Trace: newsfe1-win.ntli.net 1203485505 86.1.196.26 (Wed, 20 Feb 2008
05:31:45 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:31:45 GMT
Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service

He'd be easy to trace...right to his IP.

Easynews puts your IP in the References line: 208.49.80.253

But, the good posters use redirectors, IRC-based systems, etc., making
finding them impossible:

news.astraweb.com!border1.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail
From: tergeron@postit.net (NoRegret)
Sender: tergeron@postit.net
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.movies.divx
Subject: [21906]-[#altbin@EFNet]-[FULL]-[
10.Things.I.Hate.About.You.1999.iNTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD-iLS ]-[62/70]-yEnc
"ils-10things-OTHER.par2" (1/1)
Reply-To: tergeron@postit.net
X-Newsposter: NNTP YENC-POST 2002 v1.02
Date: 20 Feb 2008 07:07:28 GMT
Lines: 21
Message-ID: <47bbd1b0$0$25426$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>
Organization: Unlimited download news at news.astraweb.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: e31c5fa0.news.astraweb.com
X-Trace: DXC=eH@b?@Be7J0J5c6\GR85Z>L?0kYOcDh@:?dW0mSH4Aa:n:Z;YQFLZF2
[DhJL83?DP<M0OeeeWTlO;ho4R_]Qmic6
Xref: usenetserver.com alt.binaries.movies.divx:125312638
X-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:06:32 EST (beE1)

I'm amazed Usenet hasn't been more aggressively attacked, by now. A
lack of technical expertise in the criminal investigative business is
one reason. Money is the other. If you watch the prosecutions, or
threats of prosecutions, RIAA/MPAA takes the cheapest easiest way out,
P2P or some college IT department to go after its students, easy
targets. Going after Usenet targets in RUSSIA or NETHERLANDS or
TIMBUCTOO would be way expensive, and probably unsuccessful. Many 3rd
world countries have no copyright laws, at all. RIAA/MPAA only runs on
laws from the USA and the rest of the lawyered world. The little
countries would laugh them back on the planes.

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