Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / February 2010
Best phone for fringe areas?
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Robert Peirce - 08 Feb 2010 16:22 GMT I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go in VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on Verizon, has a Blackberry that works great there. I don't want a Blackberry, just a cell phone, but I don't know which one to get. Any suggestions?
Regis - 08 Feb 2010 16:53 GMT > I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go in > VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on Verizon, has > a Blackberry that works great there. I don't want a Blackberry, just a > cell phone, but I don't know which one to get. Any suggestions? It seems to be very hard to get objective reviews of RF and voice quality of phones. Which is a pity. This is complicated by the fact that the general user has no way of gauging relative RF performance of a phone without owning several, so user reviews are never a reliable measure unless you happen to know a reviewer who knows what they're talking about .
Happily all carriers have 30 day return policies, but that's often not terribly convenient if the one place you go that has problems isn't very convenient to get to or a place you're at at least once every 30 days.
If it's a car you're in while in teh problem area, a phone for which there's an accessory jack that supports an external antenna would of course be a plus.
All I can say is that the RF reception capability of my Droid seems a lot better than my MiFi, and that historically, the RF performance of Motorola products has been relatively decent. But that doesn't do you much good.
Richard B. Gilbert - 08 Feb 2010 18:45 GMT >> I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go in >> VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on Verizon, has [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > measure unless you happen to know a reviewer who knows what they're > talking about . <snip>
One thing you can check on is the sensitivity of the receiver. It's usually specified in microvolts. The smaller the number, the better it will be with weak signals.
If the phone has any provision for connecting an external antenna, using one might help.
Larry - 08 Feb 2010 17:14 GMT Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote in news:bob- 05AE37.11224108022010@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com:
> I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go in > VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on Verizon, has > a Blackberry that works great there. I don't want a Blackberry, just a > cell phone, but I don't know which one to get. Any suggestions? The best RADIOS all have MOTOROLA printed on them. It's why all the cops use MOTOROLA-brand radios when their lives depend on it.
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=191 I highly recommend the Motorola ROKR Z6m here. I've been carrying one branded Alltel so it isn't all hobbled up like the same exact phone Verizon sold as the Z6tv hawking their crappy TV service, since 2007 and it's just a great phone. It has a nice camera that takes great pictures, stored on its unhobbled up standard microSD card (up to 2MB only, microSDHC not supported). You can also put MP3 files on the microSD card and use them as ringtones, different for every user in the huge contacts database, move files on or off internal memory with the copy or move commands. There's no need to use internal memory for your pictures/music/etc., unless you want to use a picture as the background or screen saver, which you are free to do, even straight off the card. No special software is needed to move files on/off the motorola's file structure. Just use any file manager and plug the card into your computer. The music player in it works great, especially with a Motorola S9 or S9HD stereo bluetooth headset that fully controls the phone from the headset buttons.
The radio transceiver in it is typical Motorola quality....very sensitive, very good in noisy situation on a crowded city system and seems to work in may places other phones refuse to work in.
It's a nice, tiny phone and the Alltel-branded ones are totally unhobbled if you can find one. The slide is very rugged and made of metal, not plastic.
The stereo speakers are in a little slot in the back of the phone made to turn any flat surface into a sound projector! The slot and bottom of the phone work against the hard desk surface to create a little sound "horn" like a PA speaker that makes this phone REALLY LOUD, too! The ringer rings through both speakers and turns head wide open.
Nice phone, works great. The original battery finally gave up on 24/7 service, so I bought another OEM branded Motorola BT50 from Hong Kong DELIVERED FREE for only $2.19 off Ebay! I have 3 spares they were so cheap!
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Richard B. Gilbert - 08 Feb 2010 18:35 GMT > I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go in > VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on Verizon, has > a Blackberry that works great there. I don't want a Blackberry, just a > cell phone, but I don't know which one to get. Any suggestions? Ask the cellphone using residents of that "one area" what kind of cell phone they have, who their service provider is and how well it works.
If everyone there uses Blackberrys you are out of luck!!
badgolferman - 09 Feb 2010 13:04 GMT >I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go >in VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on >Verizon, has a Blackberry that works great there. I don't want a >Blackberry, just a cell phone, but I don't know which one to get. >Any suggestions? My old Motorola RAZR V3M had the best reception and voice quality of any cell phone I've used. Avoid Samsungs if those two characteristics are important to you.
Richard B. Gilbert - 09 Feb 2010 16:31 GMT >> I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go >> in VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > any cell phone I've used. Avoid Samsungs if those two characteristics > are important to you. I bought a RAZR V3M ago from VZW a little more than two years. It has never failed me. If I should happen to to something really stupid, like dropping my phone into the commode, I would seriously consider replacing it with another V3M. The exception would be if I anticipated a need to send text messages. In that event I would seriously consider buying a Blackberry in order to have a QUERTY keyboard. Trying to enter text via the RAZR's keypad is a ROYAL PITA. Last night I spent about fifteen minutes composing and sending the message "STOP". (With frequent reference to the Instruction Manual!)
XS11E - 09 Feb 2010 17:18 GMT > Trying to enter text via the RAZR's keypad is a ROYAL PITA. Yet any 15 year old can text to his girlfriend w/o even looking at the phone.
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Richard B. Gilbert - 09 Feb 2010 18:38 GMT >> Trying to enter text via the RAZR's keypad is a ROYAL PITA. > > Yet any 15 year old can text to his girlfriend w/o even looking at the > phone. Fifteen was a great many years ago in my case!
If texting were something I needed to do I'd either learn from practice or I'd get a phone with a QUERTY keyboard! As I seldom need to text, I'll ignore it when I can or struggle with it when I must.
badgolferman - 09 Feb 2010 18:23 GMT >>>I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we >>>go in VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Last night I spent about fifteen minutes composing and sending the >message "STOP". (With frequent reference to the Instruction Manual!) Learn to use iTAP method. It works well.
Richard B. Gilbert - 09 Feb 2010 18:53 GMT >>>> I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we >>>> go in VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Learn to use iTAP method. It works well. I've had a cell phone for about the last thirteen years and last night was the FIRST time I needed to text. I needed to send the word "STOP" to abate some nuisance; the details are already forgotten and the nuisance deleted.
I suspect that the "iTAP" method would have insisted on sending "stop" or "Stop" rather than "STOP". Any of the three forms would be recognized by a human as equivalents. I was pretty sure that I was dealing with a computer; the instructions said send "STOP" so that's what I did.
Dean - 09 Feb 2010 17:55 GMT My wife and daughter have always liked the feature set of LG phones, and I have to say my experience with them is that their software is rock-solid. No quirks or weirdness.
That being said, their phones fail to make and hold calls at times when my Moto phones have had no such trouble. I have and still use a Moto e815, Razr v3m, Krzr k1m, v325i, and v750, and every one of them gets stellar reception and has a crystal-clear voice quality I find sorely lacking in the LG's.
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>I have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go in > VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on Verizon, has > a Blackberry that works great there. I don't want a Blackberry, just a > cell phone, but I don't know which one to get. Any suggestions? badgolferman - 09 Feb 2010 18:22 GMT >I have and still use a Moto e815, Razr v3m, Krzr k1m, v325i, and >v750, and every one of them gets stellar reception and has a >crystal-clear voice quality I find sorely lacking in the LG's. You use ALL those now?
Richard B. Gilbert - 09 Feb 2010 18:42 GMT >> I have and still use a Moto e815, Razr v3m, Krzr k1m, v325i, and >> v750, and every one of them gets stellar reception and has a >> crystal-clear voice quality I find sorely lacking in the LG's. > > You use ALL those now? He probably has four secret identities to go with the extra four phones! ;-)
He's welcome to them. I find one to taxing enough!
Robert Peirce - 09 Feb 2010 18:55 GMT Thanks, everybody, for the feedback. Looks like Motorola is the way to go. Funny, I had a something-815 before I got the LG and never really thought that much about it. I just checked the VZ Wireless web site and they seem to be pretty limited right now. The only listing was for something called the Barrage. I seem to recall they offered several Motorola phones a couple of years ago. Possibly the stores have a wider choice.
Richard B. Gilbert - 09 Feb 2010 19:06 GMT > Thanks, everybody, for the feedback. Looks like Motorola is the way to > go. Funny, I had a something-815 before I got the LG and never really [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Motorola phones a couple of years ago. Possibly the stores have a wider > choice. Which site were you looking at? I was looking at the VZW site day before yesterday and they had a MUCH larger selection of phones!
XS11E - 09 Feb 2010 19:32 GMT > I have and still use a Moto e815, Razr v3m, You have two of the 3 best phones ever made, add a V9M to complete the top 3.
I have an e815 (seem edited to full MPT use) and a V3M (flashed to generic Moto UI) and I keep watching for a good V9M.
Don't know why, I'll probably stick with RIM for the foreseeable future.
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(PeteCresswell) - 09 Feb 2010 20:00 GMT Per Robert Peirce:
> have an LG VX-5400. It is okay but there is one area where we go in >VA where I have a lot of problems. My son, who is also on Verizon, has >a Blackberry that works great there. I don't want a Blackberry, just a >cell phone, but I don't know which one to get. Any suggestions? I've had tMobile service for well over five years now and our house seems tb in one of tMob's many marginal coverage areas.
My experience has been that Nokia candy-bar phones (3595, 6010, and a few others) give me a connection more often than any of the other phones I've had (Moto v180 flip, Razr flip, Samsung flip, and a couple others that I cannot recall.
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