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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / September 2003QNC Internet Access Question
In my home area (around Albuquerque) I have had no problems using qnc access or Express Network access with my LG4400. We are now in eastern OK with both digital and analog Verizon Extended Network service. When I try to sign on from either my laptop or Palm, I get an Authenication Error. Should I not expect to be able to use qnc access from out of my home area??? Frank McGirt fmcgirt@mac.com Your getting Authentication error because your not on Verizon! Extended Network means your roaming onto an other company.. You will need to use a different dialup ISP, or use that companies model pool.. You can call their 611 and ask if they have QNC Internet access on their network. Ask them the number and the username/password their system requires. But keep in mind, not all digital carriers have data enabled on their network. US Cellular doen't in Central Washington! Even a regular dialup ISP will not work! > In my home area (around Albuquerque) I have had no problems using qnc > access or Express Network access with my LG4400. We are now in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Frank McGirt > fmcgirt@mac.com > Your getting Authentication error because your not on Verizon! > Extended Network means your roaming onto an other company.. You will need to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Frank McGirt > > fmcgirt@mac.com Thanks for the responses. I was pretty sure that was the case. Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I am on travel. Thanks again, Frank Frank, You don't have to be in your Home area, just on the Verizon network. OK and a few other states do have little Verizon data coverage. Looking at this map, you can access the data network in all of the places marked on this map, not just your Home area: http://www.verizonwireless.com/images/maps/americas_choice/americas_choice_mtm.gif -Bill Radio Western U.S. Wireless Reviews & Ratings: http://www.MountainWireless.com Frank McGirt <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in article <290920031617074404%fmcgirt@mac.com>: > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does > defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I > am on travel. > Frank, > You don't have to be in your Home area, just on the Verizon network. OK [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > [posted via phonescoop.com] I think I get it now. I was under the impression that being on the Extended Network would mean that all services (except maybe Express Network) would be available and this is not true as you pointed out. Since Alltel is the service provider here and since they are partners with Verizon, I just assumed that qnc data service would be available and it is not. What was also strange was that the LG4400 display showed completion of a QNC call but then the signon process was aborted with the auth failure and ended the call. Wonder why a qnc call would even be accepted by Alltel if the data service was not available?? Why not give a more reasonable error like: Service Not Available?? Thanks to everyone for the responses, Frank >> Your getting Authentication error because your not on Verizon! >> Extended Network means your roaming onto an other company.. You will need to [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >defeat the purpose since my laptop goes pretty much where I go when I >am on travel. It will work in any Verizon digital area, not just your home area. There are also some roaming partners where you can use your AirCard to call your own ISP (not #777), but this is pretty much hit-or-miss. > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Frank it will work out of your home area, just not on Extended Network, because your actually not on verizons network right now. geoff > > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon > > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > geoff OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on??? Maybe Alltel doesn't support data access in this part of OK, but that is pretty hard to believe. Alltel does offer QNC (14.4 Kbps) data, but I dont know their username/password info, or if it is in fact #777 like Verizon. Call 611 from the Alltel area your in, and ask one of their reps the information. If they dont know, ask to speak to someone in tech. support or data services. > > > Does this also mean that the PCMCIA Air Card for laptops that Verizon > > > sells will also not work except in ones home area? If so sure does [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Maybe Alltel doesn't support data access in this part of OK, but that > is pretty hard to believe. > OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought > that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc > and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on??? I am also on NSR. Have you tried setting up a connection directly to your ISP regular number that you use at home? I have no problem doing that when qnc doesn't connect AS LONG AS I am on digital. The feed through is slower though. Tom J In article <Sc3eb.163680$3o3.11788898@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Tom J <tomjanis2@att.net> wrote: > > OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought > > that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tom J No, I have not tried that but I certainly will!!! Thanks for the suggestion. Frank I have AC and while roaming on Alltel in western Kansas I have have used QNC. #777, qnc, qnc - just like when on Verizon. Since I had EN-MOU added to my account I have not been able to connect to QNC @ 19.2K. I have only been able to connect to EN @ 115.2K. Have not tried to connect outside of the EN area since the change. Frank McGirt <fmcgirt@mac.com> wrote in article <290920031845353836%fmcgirt@mac.com>: > In article > <Sc3eb.163680$3o3.11788898@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Tom J [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Frank > I have AC and while roaming on Alltel in western Kansas I have have used > QNC. #777, qnc, qnc - just like when on Verizon. > Since I had EN-MOU added to my account I have not been able to connect > to QNC @ 19.2K. I have only been able to connect to EN @ 115.2K. > Have not tried to connect outside of the EN area since the change. You may have to make a change to a setting in the phone from packet data to circuit data. EN and QNC use different data connections. Geoff, who will surely see this, :-) always has the init strings which allow you to do this from the PC rather than mucking about in the phone which is a pain on the Motorola T720 (it was easy on the Audiovox 9155). I really have not needed QNC since getting EN, but this was a problem with my Alltel account as their 1x footprint was only a small portion of their coverage area. I needed to use QNC when out of 1x coverage and had to switch the phone back and forth.  SignatureThomas M. Goethe > You may have to make a change to a setting in the phone from packet data > to circuit data. EN and QNC use different data connections. Geoff, who will > surely see this, :-) always has the init strings which allow you to do this > from the PC rather than mucking about in the phone which is a pain on the > Motorola T720 (it was easy on the Audiovox 9155). AT$QCMDR=2 QNC AT$QCMDR=3 EN geoff > OK, I checked and I am on Alltel when I get the auth error. I thought > that Alltel qnc access is exactly the same as Verizon: #777, qnc/qnc > and I have the NSR Verizon plan so something else must be going on??? > > Maybe Alltel doesn't support data access in this part of OK, but that > is pretty hard to believe. Alltel charges extra to be able to use QNC in Tampa, FL SignatureThomas M. Goethe > In my home area (around Albuquerque) I have had no problems using qnc > access or Express Network access with my LG4400. We are now in > eastern OK with both digital and analog Verizon Extended Network > service. When I try to sign on from either my laptop or Palm, I get > an Authenication Error. Should I not expect to be able to use qnc > access from out of my home area??? you most likey have to be on native verizon network for data services to work... your out of luck.. geoff |
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