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Do Boosters work???
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Eric McNew - 19 Feb 2004 19:10 GMT I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap $5 cell boosters or know of another solution?
Thanks Eric
Scott Nelson - 19 Feb 2004 20:45 GMT I have been paid ( part of my job ) to test out these things at one time and I didn't find any to work, no. Pretty much scams are far as we could tell.
Best thing to do is to get an external antenna or find a better phone, better service, etc.
http://www.criterioncellular.com/html/setups.html
Scotty
> I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap > $5 cell boosters or know of another solution? > > Thanks > Eric Tee Box - 19 Feb 2004 21:22 GMT Send em to me. My wife uses them to hold her panty liners in.
> I have been paid ( part of my job ) to test out these things at one time and > I didn't find any to work, no. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thanks > > Eric David S - 21 Feb 2004 05:27 GMT That is WTMI, and I think your wife would agree.
>Send em to me. My wife uses them to hold her panty liners in. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap >> > $5 cell boosters or know of another solution?
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Scott Nelson - 21 Feb 2004 14:21 GMT I was thinking the same thing. It's funny though. And that is probably the only use I can think of as well. Wait, they can also be used as "potato chip clips" to keep your chips fresh. ;-)
Scotty
> That is WTMI, and I think your wife would agree. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >> > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap > >> > $5 cell boosters or know of another solution? Lutho - 21 Feb 2004 19:04 GMT Just make darn sure you don't use the same ones Tee Box's wife was using!
L.
> I was thinking the same thing. It's funny though. And that is probably the > only use I can think of as well. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > cheap > > >> > $5 cell boosters or know of another solution? Blah - 19 Feb 2004 21:56 GMT If you search on the internet, you can find these whole sale at less than a penny each. I have never seen anyone that said "Wow, my phone works great with this thing!".
> I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap > $5 cell boosters or know of another solution? > > Thanks > Eric Student - 20 Feb 2004 02:11 GMT > If you search on the internet, you can find these whole sale at less than a > penny each. I have never seen anyone that said "Wow, my phone works great [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks > > Eric I was wondering about that also. No one has complained about them so what do you have to lose? When you buy phone accessories on ebay aren't they free half the time. If they are free and don't damage your phone nothing to lose by putting on. I would never go out and buy one though. Because as all agreed it is not that serious.
Lawrence Glasser - 20 Feb 2004 03:12 GMT > > If you search on the internet, you can find these whole sale at less than a > > penny each. I have never seen anyone that said "Wow, my phone works great [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > phone nothing to lose by putting on. I would never go out and buy one > though. Because as all agreed it is not that serious. Why would you apply something to your phone that *knew* didn't work?
Larry
Quick - 20 Feb 2004 17:52 GMT > Why would you apply something to your phone that *knew* didn't work? Just in case all the laws of physics are wrong and the answer is *not* 42 and there is still some magic left in some spot of the earth's surface (see below).
The reason there are no more wizards (I read this somewhere):
Long ago there was magic in the surface of the earth. In some places it was more concentrated than others. A few people, wizards, knew how to use the magic. This is why there were more wizards in some areas of the land than others. Unfortunately magic is a finite resource and once used is gone. There is no conservation of magic in the universe. Over time the wizards depleted the magic in the earth's surface. Some moved to areas where there was more magic and eventually the wizards simply dissappeared with the magic. Very sad.
So its certainly possible that there are wisps and traces of magic left in spots and the boosters might work in these areas.
-Quick
Lawrence Glasser - 20 Feb 2004 18:17 GMT > > Why would you apply something to your phone that *knew* didn't work? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > So its certainly possible that there are wisps and traces of magic > left in spots and the boosters might work in these areas. <g>
Who am I to argue with magic?
Go for it!
Larry
David S - 21 Feb 2004 19:42 GMT On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:52:36 -0800, "Quick" <dhorwitz@NOSPAMcisco.com> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and everything:
>> Why would you apply something to your phone that *knew* didn't work? > >Just in case all the laws of physics are wrong and the answer is *not* 42 Bumblebees.
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Double U - 20 Feb 2004 01:20 GMT Some time around Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:10:33 GMT (give or take a month), someone who says they are named Eric McNew <artboy@yahooXXX.com> fired up the tubes on the teletype and rambled on about:
>I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my >house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap >$5 cell boosters or know of another solution? Yes, they work great. Buy 100 of them and you can pick up towers from across the state. Better yet send me $100 and I will send you a piece of aluminum foil in duct tape that will pick up space station communications. BTW the spam you get is also useless.
-W
FONDOONYC - 20 Feb 2004 04:07 GMT thats a good one, double u!! HAHA.. couldnt stop laughin
> Some time around Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:10:33 GMT (give or take a month), someone who says they are > named Eric McNew <artboy@yahooXXX.com> fired up the tubes on the teletype and rambled on about: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -W Double U - 21 Feb 2004 00:58 GMT Some time around Fri, 20 Feb 2004 04:07:59 GMT (give or take a month), someone who says they are named "FONDOONYC" <chopstic-removethis@rochester.rr.com> fired up the tubes on the teletype and rambled on about:
>thats a good one, double u!! HAHA.. couldnt stop laughin You sound bitter, did you purchase a booster? Sorry
-W
Lawrence Glasser - 20 Feb 2004 03:21 GMT > I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap > $5 cell boosters or know of another solution? Once again...
One should never look at the number of "bars" as any indication of signal strength. They're put there by the manufacturer of the phone. One manufacturer might decide that a weak signal deserves one bar, while the next thinks two would be more appropriate. Etc., etc. Not only is there no standard between manufacturers, there's not even a standard between phones from the *same* manufacturer.
Larry
Scott Nelson - 20 Feb 2004 04:59 GMT What db level does it take to reach 1 bar, or 2 bars, or etc., etc. Every manufacturer quantifies it differently.
Some manufacturers even have the bars read the S/R ratio, in lieu of the signal strength. Nokia being one of them. You can have 5 bars with a Nokia 6185 and still not be able to get signal or make a call from it. Yup, no noise all right, too bad there isn't enough signal to bring up a voice channel. ;-) There are a couple of others but I forget now which ones we found this out on.
Scotty
> > I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my > > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Larry Not Me - 20 Feb 2004 19:49 GMT "Lawrence Glasser"
| > I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my | > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | only is there no standard between manufacturers, there's not even a | standard between phones from the *same* manufacturer. It's not even consistent on the same model phone. I've seen two vastly different indications on phones with only one number different in the ESN/SN
CharlesH - 20 Feb 2004 23:16 GMT >"Lawrence Glasser" >| > I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >It's not even consistent on the same model phone. I've seen two vastly >different indications on phones with only one number different in the ESN/SN And with CDMA, what do you show? You can have a very strong signal, but it is so crowded (the signal/noise ratio is so low) that you won't get a call though. Or the signal/noise ratio is fine, but the signal is so weak that the cell site cannot hear the phone. The bars only present how the phone can hear the cell site, not how (or if) the cell site can hear the phone. Or S/N ratio is fine and the tower can hear the phone, but the phone is so far away (greater than about 35 miles, I think) that the timing is too far off.
Student - 20 Feb 2004 22:31 GMT > > I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my > > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Larry I really believed this after I went into an elevator with three bars on my 4400B. I could hear nice and clear on the floor. Went in the elevator so the bars go down to 3/5. Checked again halfway down and saw that it was 1 bar left. No change in clarity.
Dr.WireMORE - 23 Feb 2004 14:37 GMT Antenna Boosters do work! And if your serious, buy a Wilson booster that works. The Dr.
Fact: Since you were looking to boost your signal in your house: wilson booster antenna. It is an external antenna, cable to the interior, then an interior "booster", which does amplify signal both inbound/outbound. It costs more than a penny. This could be perfect for you. http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/welcome.htm
Fact: (According to Wilson) (http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/antennas/wcstealth.htm): "Up to 90% of a cellphone's power on transmit and receive is absorbed within a car or truck and the users head." guessing that the same would be said in your house. The question could be how much is absorbed by your head.
Opinion: With the above information, there is a reasonable chance that this piece of .01 to 5.00 "metal", does one of two things: 1) it amplifies the signal and sends it x-fold out into the air (ignoring that it is not directional, so it is boostering this signal also goes into your head. 2) if it doesn't amplify, then perhaps it is "blocking" the signal that would normally go away from your head and reflecting it into your head. (You usually put this on the back of the phone... between the phone and the battery.... if it doesn't send stuff away from your head, maybe it reflects into your head. 3) And personal experience: people who have them on the phone say one of two things: "it didn't make it any worse" and every so often, one person will say "it actually improved it, really made a difference"
Dr. WireMORE Wireless Consultant/Trainer, Midwest Master Agent
> I live in an area that I usually have 1 - 2 bars of reception (at my > house) and I frequently get dropped calls. Has anyone used these cheap > $5 cell boosters or know of another solution? > > Thanks > Eric Scott Nelson - 23 Feb 2004 15:26 GMT OK so where are the 5 dollar ones that this thread is referring to? ( Read whole thread ).
We know hard wired and amplifiers ones, ( second message posted ) with two antennas work, but I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that the 5 dollar clip-on to the phone unit, do other than get somebody else richer.
Scotty
> Antenna Boosters do work! And if your serious, buy a Wilson booster that > works. The Dr. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Thanks > > Eric Eddie Haskel - 24 Feb 2004 02:33 GMT One word .......HORSESHIT!
> Antenna Boosters do work! And if your serious, buy a Wilson booster that > works. The Dr. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Thanks > > Eric Scott Nelson - 24 Feb 2004 12:57 GMT Dr. WireMORE wasn't talking about the same thing this thread is.
Was talking about two way active antenna repeaters and external antennas, which are more than 40 Bucks or so. I know those work. ;-) I am using a repeater system in my basement. Works great! I get damn near full strength now where I couldn't even make a call before.
It's the $5 ones that don't work, I agree.
Scotty
> One word .......HORSESHIT! > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > > Thanks > > > Eric eric mcnew - 27 Feb 2004 22:05 GMT So - today, by chance and order we placed for ink cartridges came with a 'FREE' one of those cheap-o sticker things. I'll let you know if there's any difference.
Quick - 27 Feb 2004 23:41 GMT > So - today, by chance and order we placed for ink cartridges came with > a 'FREE' one of those cheap-o sticker things. I'll let you know if > there's any difference. And how are you going to tell?
-Quick
Alex Rodriguez - 28 Feb 2004 08:16 GMT >> So - today, by chance and order we placed for ink cartridges came with >> a 'FREE' one of those cheap-o sticker things. I'll let you know if >> there's any difference. > >And how are you going to tell? find a place where you have a weak signal. Install the booster. See if the signal changes. Try this in a few areas. Pretty easy test. ------------- Alex
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