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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / October 2006V710 Camera Performance
I got a V710 about 2 weeks ago and have been less than impressed with the camera performance. Picture are very "soft" (not real good focus) and the contrast blends objects together. Is this just an issue with my phone or are others seeing the same thing? The voice recognition, speakerphone and RF performance rock on this phone though! Did you go out to buy a camera or a phone? If you went to buy a phone, you got a great one. If you went to buy a camera, you should have bought an Olympus, Minolta, Canon etc. >I got a V710 about 2 weeks ago and have been less than impressed with the > camera performance. Picture are very "soft" (not real good focus) and the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The voice recognition, speakerphone and RF performance rock on this phone > though! My reply stands. If he wanted good camera performance, he should have bought a real camera. All camera phones give less than stellar output. Any idiot would know that. teebox chirped: "Did you go out to buy a camera or a phone? If you went to buy a phone, you got a great one. If you went to buy a camera, you should have bought an Olympus, Minolta, Canon etc." what a dopey reply. the poster is asking about a camera phone. My reply stands. If he wanted good camera performance, he should have bought a real >camera. All camera phones give less than stellar output. Any idiot would know that. Maybe...but he DID ask if others are having this problem too. My wife has an LG cam-phone, and the pictures are quite good. We had no first hand knowledge of phone pictures until hers. If I had his phone, and compared to the 710, I would wonder if his specific phone had a problem, or maybe that model just isn't as good as a camera. Asking to see if it's a problem with his phone, or the whole line, is a very sensible question, and not out of line.  SignatureMike I'll side with Kay Anne Darcy here since I asked the original question. I already stated that I am very pleased with the phone performance. I have a decent Canon digital camera. My question was regarding if anyone was seeing sub-par performance. I have a $30 VGA webcam that seems to capture better images than the 1.2M V710. I am using the V710 in the hi-res mode and have played with both contrast and brightness. So - my original question on other user's experience stands... ---------------------------------------------------- My reply stands. If he wanted good camera performance, he should have bought a real >camera. All camera phones give less than stellar output. Any idiot would know that. Maybe...but he DID ask if others are having this problem too. My wife has an LG cam-phone, and the pictures are quite good. We had no first hand knowledge of phone pictures until hers. If I had his phone, and compared to the 710, I would wonder if his specific phone had a problem, or maybe that model just isn't as good as a camera. Asking to see if it's a problem with his phone, or the whole line, is a very sensible question, and not out of line. SignatureMike I also have an LG-VX6000 and the pics from that are very similar to the pics from the V710. The judgement of 'pictures are quite good' is very subjective and unless you have a source of 'regular' digital camera pics you might not realize just how bad these camera phones are! But the V710 has many other features and functions which are a lot more valuable than just a camera. Very good RF performance is one of them. Ability to personalize the main menu and configure what the 'shortcut' buttons do is another. Bluetooth headset capability is another, though of course the rest of the bluetooth functions like file transfer aren't there (yet). Maybe...but he DID ask if others are having this problem too. My wife has an LG cam-phone, and the pictures are quite good. We had no first hand knowledge of phone pictures until hers. If I had his phone, and compared to the 710, I would wonder if his specific phone had a problem, or maybe that model just isn't as good as a camera. Asking to see if it's a problem with his phone, or the whole line, is a very sensible question, and not out of line. SignatureMike no, no.. youve got it wrong again. you say your reply stands. its your -dopey- reply that stands. >no, no.. youve got it wrong again. you say your reply stands. its your >-dopey- reply that stands. His reply is dopey only in that it doesn't answer whether the OP's camera phone is typical of its model. If all 710s take pictures of the same quality as the OP's, then Tee Box's reply is right on the mark. SignatureDavid Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time. "You know, I was supposed to be a flash in the pan. I'm the longest flash Hollywood's ever seen." - Whoopi Goldberg, accepting a career achievement award at the Santa Barbara Film Festival "Any idiot would know that." Watch how you say things...you just incriminated yourself! My reply stands. If he wanted good camera performance, he should have bought a real camera. All camera phones give less than stellar output. Any idiot would know that. teebox chirped: "Did you go out to buy a camera or a phone? If you went to buy a phone, you got a great one. If you went to buy a camera, you should have bought an Olympus, Minolta, Canon etc." what a dopey reply. the poster is asking about a camera phone. What "all camera phones" are you talking about? Most other camera phones are around 300kilopixels in resolution, the 710 camera is 1.2 megapixels. If the 710 camera is roughly 4 times the resolution, shouldn't the photos it takes be four times better than the lower resolution cam phone pics? If they are not better, why not? I think that is the question the original poster is asking. I wonder why Motorola would build a higher resolution camera phone then leave it with the same photo quality as lower resolution cameras. > My reply stands. If he wanted good camera performance, he should have > bought a real camera. All camera phones give less than stellar output. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > what a dopey reply. the poster is asking about a camera phone. Main purpose is the phone. The camera is nice, but don't expect great pics. >I got a V710 about 2 weeks ago and have been less than impressed with the >camera performance. Picture are very "soft" (not real good focus) and the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >The voice recognition, speakerphone and RF performance rock on this phone >though! 07-Sep-2004, From Ellery (at) StarBus (dot) com Exact same observations as you, Slick. Great voice recognition ability(*) and terrible photo quality (excessive contrast, softness/resolution, slow shutter speed, lack of low light sensitivity). * I just notice that it even allows training for those few entries with unusual spelling or with close Hamming distance to other entries. This is the best of both worlds! It doesn't hog the memory for speech training, yet it allows subtle "hints" for the difficult ones! _____________ >I got a V710 about 2 weeks ago and have been less than impressed with the > camera performance. Picture are very "soft" (not real good focus) and the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The voice recognition, speakerphone and RF performance rock on this phone > though! The 'cameras' on all of these cell phones are mostly a marketing gimmick for the young users. They use very cheap CMOS sensors and cheap lenses, etc. So what you are seeing with the V710 is rather normal for cellphone cameras. If you really want to take good pics then get a 'regular' digital camera from one of the big names.. > I got a V710 about 2 weeks ago and have been less than impressed with the > camera performance. Picture are very "soft" (not real good focus) and the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The voice recognition, speakerphone and RF performance rock on this phone > though! Bob, I have a Canon A70 digital camera that takes awesome pictures, but I'm really upset that I cannot make a phone call with it! (Joking, of course) Gregg Hill > The 'cameras' on all of these cell phones are mostly a marketing gimmick > for [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> The voice recognition, speakerphone and RF performance rock on this phone >> though! >I have a Canon A70 digital camera that takes awesome pictures, but I'm >really upset that I cannot make a phone call with it! >(Joking, of course) Hey, there's an idea, actually. Instead o building the camera and other whatnot into the phone, build a phone into a camera. It would still serve the purpose of reducing the number of things you have to carry. Thinking about it though, the market for such a thing would be limited to people who carry a camera constantly -- professional photographers and photojournalists, and very serious amateurs who have nothing better to do. Oh well. I guess if it was a good idea, someone would have done it already. SignatureDavid Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time. "Whatever you think about anything is wrong." - Dave Barry > Oh well. I guess if it was a good idea, someone would have done it > already. Don't forget "commercial realities". Verizon carries 16 non-PDA phones from about 5 manufacturers. There are no supply contracts (ie the carriers order more phones whenever they want). There isn't much money in it either. And for CDMA phones, the market is very limited and most phones have to be software customised on a per carrier basis. So no matter how good an idea it is, the phones have to appeal to a really large number of people to be commercially viable. Roger > >I have a Canon A70 digital camera that takes awesome pictures, but I'm > >really upset that I cannot make a phone call with it! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Oh well. I guess if it was a good idea, someone would have done it already. Actually, I have a PDA/phone with an SDIO slot, and they make camera/SDIO cards (probably CF too), that you can pop in the PDA/phone and take pictures. With the variety of Bluetooth/WiFi/Network/USB cards available also, you can even transfer the photos without paying for the phone/pix thing.... (There are different ones, but this is for my PDA. Check out this one at http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3881947 ) > I am considering a Blackberry to check e mails, and send text messages, > rarely, when I am away from my PC or laptop. I also need to be able to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > in Georgia but travel to other states at times. I have heard that Verizon > is the best way to go. Any advice would be appreciated. |
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