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Would upgrading firmware improve reception?

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Swingman - 25 Sep 2005 19:59 GMT
Does upgrading a phone's software/firmware ever improve it's reception or is
it more a matter of eliminating bugs and/or adding features?
Evan Platt - 26 Sep 2005 20:38 GMT
>Does upgrading a phone's software/firmware ever improve it's reception

Nope.

>or is it more a matter of eliminating bugs and/or adding features?

Yep. There's not really anything a firmware upgrade could do to help
reception - except if there were a huge bug in the firmware, but
that'd be pretty rare.
swingman - 26 Sep 2005 21:15 GMT
>>Does upgrading a phone's software/firmware ever improve it's reception
>
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> reception - except if there were a huge bug in the firmware, but
> that'd be pretty rare.

Thanks for the reply.
dr news - 27 Sep 2005 06:23 GMT
I beg to disagree.  Firmware could improve reception.

Firmware (embedded hardware/software) can affect many things in your phone,
one of which is reception. Reception may be a characteristic of the
handshake between the phone and the tower, which can be controlled (in part)
by firmware.  But in the end, it depends.

Correct: firmware might improve reception
Incorrect: firmware "can't" improve reception

In the end, it depends on what the firmware changes... or is intended to
change.  dr
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>>Does upgrading a phone's software/firmware ever improve it's reception
>
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> reception - except if there were a huge bug in the firmware, but
> that'd be pretty rare.
Quick - 27 Sep 2005 07:51 GMT
Uhhh, "handshake"? (Your example.)

No. "Handshake" would have nothing to do with an
improvement in reception. "Handshake" could be the
difference between reception/no reception but I find
it doubtful that the phone would be released if it never
got a signal don't you think? What are you refering to
when you say "handshake" anyway? In the context of
CDMA. A couple sentence description would really enhance
credibility and --> could even draw in some business...

Thanks for the description of firmware (embedded
hardware/software). Do you think the "firmware"
upgrades done at the stores actually upgrades
the chip firmware?  CDMA has been around
for a while. Most everyone is using Qualcomm chips
and I don't think they have changed much there
recently.

> Correct: firmware might improve reception.

Yea... and the President MIGHT get jailed for DWI.
No. Not the upgrade you will get at the store.
Example please? Just one? Maybe even a "let's
assume" with at least 2 real details? Reception.
We're not talking about battery life here.

> Incorrect: firmware "can't" improve reception.

uhhh, example please? any example at all? Where
a firmware upgrade at the store has improved reception?
You claim to have moved thousands of phones and
helped countless customers with their technical problems.
You must have run across this at least once or twice right?

You said you disagree with Evan. Explain why.

I can only imagine that you continuously respond with this
sort of vague, ambiguous drivel in order to plaster your
commercial sig over  everything. It irks me.

Please prove me wrong.

-Quick

> I beg to disagree.  Firmware could improve reception.
>
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>> could do to help reception - except if there were a huge
>> bug in the firmware, but that'd be pretty rare.
Roger Binns - 30 Sep 2005 05:54 GMT
>> Correct: firmware might improve reception.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> assume" with at least 2 real details? Reception.
> We're not talking about battery life here.

Sure.  One of the VX4400 firmware upgrades made the
phone less eager to go to analog and stay on digital
more.

Roger
Quick - 30 Sep 2005 06:25 GMT
>>> Correct: firmware might improve reception.
>>
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> phone less eager to go to analog and stay on digital
> more.

There is a difference between reception and chosing
between available signals. The primary reception test
would employ a single signal and decrease the strength
(and/or raise the noise) until it was lost or unusable.
Then you would make your change and repeat the
test. This is what most people are referring to when
they speak of reception. "I get 4 bars and he only
gets 2"... (yes I know bars are not a good measure).

...you're going to say it's making a call or not and this
one helped... you would have to keep going and include
the speaker, etc. then.

-Quick
 
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