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Can you port a landline number over to a VZW number?

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Bob the Printer - 27 Sep 2005 03:23 GMT
I have a friend who wants to port his landline number over to his cellphone
on VZW. Is this possible to do? I know one can hold onto a cellphone number
when changing carriers, but not sure about the landline port to the
cellphone..

Thanks in advance!
Savvy 1 - 27 Sep 2005 03:28 GMT
>I have a friend who wants to port his landline number over to his cellphone
>on VZW. Is this possible to do? I know one can hold onto a cellphone number
>when changing carriers, but not sure about the landline port to the
>cellphone..
>
> Thanks in advance!

Yes. I did it the first week you were able to port.

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Lena - 27 Sep 2005 21:31 GMT
My sister ported her landline, which had been tied to her house in NJ
ever since area codes were invented, to her cellphone (VZW) and
promptly moved with it to AZ.  Seems like "porting" will eventually
mean that area codes don't have any relation to where the phone is
located.  I wonder if this was a consideration when the law to allow
porting was passed.

Lena
Diamond Dave - 28 Sep 2005 01:50 GMT
>My sister ported her landline, which had been tied to her house in NJ
>ever since area codes were invented, to her cellphone (VZW) and
>promptly moved with it to AZ.  Seems like "porting" will eventually
>mean that area codes don't have any relation to where the phone is
>located.  I wonder if this was a consideration when the law to allow
>porting was passed.

Eventually area codes mapping to a specific area of land will become a
moot point eventually. Its already starting with cell phones and VoIP
services.

When everyone will have either "free" or flat rate long distance and
universal porting (landline to landline, landline to cell, and now
with cell to cell), area codes will just be part of your phone number
but not necessarily to a specific place.

I give it no more than 10 years, maybe less.

Dave
IMHO IIRC - 28 Sep 2005 04:02 GMT


>> My sister ported her landline, which had been tied to her house in NJ
>> ever since area codes were invented, to her cellphone (VZW) and
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Dave

Cell phones are mobile devices, therefore they can operate anywhere there is
a compatible tower.
The area code defines the phones home location, which is contacted to obtain
authorization to allow the phone roam.
You can keep your cell number - area code and all - and go to another area
code.  But all calls from the that area code to the cell phone number will
be long distance.

For land lines there are specific area codes (and for that matter prefixes -
the three digits after the area code) which are designated to specific land
areas served by the switching equipment for that area code and prefix.

When I moved access town I was unable to keep my phone number (same phone
company) because the area I moved to had a different prefix.   Number
portability is not to keep your number when you physically move - but to
keep your current number if you stay in the same place and change phone
service providers.
CharlesH - 29 Sep 2005 05:08 GMT
> Cell phones are mobile devices, therefore they can operate anywhere there is
> a compatible tower.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> keep your current number if you stay in the same place and change phone
> service providers.

What we have is *LOCAL* number portability. This means that you can
change the provider for a number to any company (landline or wireless)
that serves the same "rate center" as the current provider for that
number. A "rate center" is a bunch of area-code/3-digit-prefixes in the
same geographic area which are treated equivalently for long distance
and call routing purposes. In other words, you can port your number to a
new provider, but you cannot port it to a new location. Now, obviously,
with a cell phone, you can take your phone anywhere and use it, but any
calls to it will be treated as calls to its home location, for long
distance purposes. This is really only meaningful for landline phones
which still have the notion of "long distance".
Tropical Haven - 28 Sep 2005 22:27 GMT
>My sister ported her landline, which had been tied to her house in NJ
>ever since area codes were invented, to her cellphone (VZW) and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>  

I think part of the idea was the idea that when switching carriers, you
don't move but you are issued a new phone number, and the previous phone
number would be unissuable for a period of time, usually 90 days, if not
always.  The idea that NANPA will run out of phone numbers is becoming
more realistic by the day, and the United States by far has the largest
share of NANPA numbers, and therefore has the largest responisibility in
number conservation, and the biggest share of the problem.

TH
Bob the Printer - 29 Sep 2005 04:30 GMT
> I think part of the idea was the idea that when switching carriers, you
> don't move but you are issued a new phone number, and the previous phone
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> share of NANPA numbers, and therefore has the largest responisibility in
> number conservation, and the biggest share of the problem.

Ok, I'll play your silly game.... WHAT IS NANPA???

I wish you people wouldn't rely so much on acronyms.. There are plain,
ordinary people here who don't have knowledge of what you're typing about!
Steve Sobol - 29 Sep 2005 05:25 GMT
>>I think part of the idea was the idea that when switching carriers, you
>>don't move but you are issued a new phone number, and the previous phone
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Ok, I'll play your silly game.... WHAT IS NANPA???

The North American Numbering Plan Association, the organization that doles
out area codes and blocks of numbers to telephone companies, etc. in the US
and Canada. Currently run by Neustar, which also happens to be the operator
of the .biz top-level Internet domain (if I am remembering correctly).

> I wish you people wouldn't rely so much on acronyms.. There are plain,
> ordinary people here who don't have knowledge of what you're typing about!

This might help: http://www.nanpa.com/

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Richard Ness - 29 Sep 2005 06:09 GMT
Jeez.... it's actually a common term.
And since when is it "silly" to nicely pass on info.

If you really wanted to know, Google it.

>> I think part of the idea was the idea that when switching carriers, you don't move but you are issued a new phone
>> number, and the previous phone number would be unissuable for a period of time, usually 90 days, if not always.  The
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I wish you people wouldn't rely so much on acronyms.. There are plain, ordinary people here who don't have knowledge
> of what you're typing about!
Bob the Printer - 29 Sep 2005 17:20 GMT
> Jeez.... it's actually a common term.
> And since when is it "silly" to nicely pass on info.

Common to YOU perhaps...
Steve Sobol - 30 Sep 2005 01:54 GMT
>>Jeez.... it's actually a common term.
>>And since when is it "silly" to nicely pass on info.
>
> Common to YOU perhaps...

Common to people who are familiar with telecomm jargon, I'm sure. Probably
not common to others.

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Richard Ness - 30 Sep 2005 03:09 GMT
It was the pissy tone of the reply...
"silly game" was the phrase you used.

The individual was trying to simply answer the question
No "silly games" were being played.

And.... as to Google.  Use it - it is your friend!!
A very quick  and simple search would have answered
your question. Faster than your snarky reply took to type, I'd bet.

>> Jeez.... it's actually a common term.
>> And since when is it "silly" to nicely pass on info.
>
> Common to YOU perhaps...
 
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