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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / November 2005Cannot have camera phone...
I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even locked in my car's glove-box in the parking lot - we're subject to searches). I'm eligible for a phone upgrade (NE2-$100 credit). I want a new, cool camera phone yet be able to keep my Moto T730C (to use for the commute to/from work), with the new phone as my "main" phone (with my current number). Any ideas on how I could keep/use both phones? I don't mind having to get another phone number as I could probably forward calls between the phones so I could always be reached regardless of which phone I had with me. Any VWZ reps or other VZW users have a work-around or solution? This can't be that uncommon nowadays at a great many companies. Thanks > I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even locked > in my car's glove-box in the parking lot - we're subject [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > solution? This can't be that uncommon nowadays at a > great many companies. Hmmm. I suppose you could do a Familyshare plan. That would get you two lines with 2 numbers that would share the total minutes and you could forward one to the other. Note: I think forwarding that way would burn double minutes on incoming, forwarded calls. You could just switch the ESN online every morning an night but that would be a real pain and I believe they are starting to charge for that. Maybe $15 per. So a couple of paid switches and you've paid for the difference going to a Familyshare plan. One or two more ESN switches and you've more than paid for the double minutes. Go with the Familyshare. -Quick I'm curious, what do other engineers/scientists/technicians/sales-people do at companies where photo devices are prohibited? Verizon's current line-up of phones is mostly camera phones, and mostly all-digital. The ones that aren't are really cheap in features/cost/quality... Ideally a nice non-camera Nokia would be great (they have good reception, great quality and very durable), but VZW sells out of these very quickly. Anyone know of any new phones due out on VZW? I'd hate to have to blow my NE2 $100 credit on a cheapie "free" phone (anyway) upgrade that probably won't last two years... A buddy with Cingular says that their business/GOV sales force have non-camera phone models available for those contracts (or personal lines with those affinity discounts), that are not available to the general public... (e.g. Moto V550 'no camera' /V551 'camera'). It's too bad Verizon does not have that... > > I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even locked > > in my car's glove-box in the parking lot - we're subject > > to searches). ... > Hmmm. I suppose you could do a Familyshare plan. That > would get you two lines with 2 numbers that would share [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -Quick >I'm curious, what do other >engineers/scientists/technicians/sales-people do at companies where >photo devices are prohibited? are you *required* to carry a cell phone at work? if yes have the company provide you one at their cost or provide you a list of acceptable phones. 73, rich, n9dko >>I'm curious, what do other >>engineers/scientists/technicians/sales-people do at companies where [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 73, > rich, n9dko I'm self-employed so when I'm out of touch, I'm out of business. You sound like a union man, or at best, an "employee" ;-) >>>I'm curious, what do other >>>engineers/scientists/technicians/sales-people do at companies where [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >I'm self-employed so when I'm out of touch, I'm out of business. You sound >like a union man, or at best, an "employee" ;-) LOLOLOL...i'm a retired administrator. have you checked out www.phonescoop.com? there you will find reviews and specs on every wireless phone there is. 73, rich, n9dko On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:03:29 GMT, "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and everything: >> I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even locked >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Note: I think forwarding that way would burn double minutes >on incoming, forwarded calls. You sure about that? And would it still burn minutes even though it would be an IN cal? >You could just switch the ESN online every morning an night >but that would be a real pain and I believe they are starting >to charge for that. Maybe $15 per. So a couple of paid switches Even if you do it yourself online? That's new. I'd only heard that they charged if you called in or went to a store. Another possibility, if you live alone: have everyone call your home phone and forward it to whichever cell you're using at the moment.  SignatureDavid Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time. "I say what it occurs to me to say when I think I hear people say things. More I cannot say." - The Ruler of the Universe >> Note: I think forwarding that way would burn double >> minutes on incoming, forwarded calls. > > You sure about that? And would it still burn minutes even > though it would be an IN cal? I don't know. I speculated on this somewhere else but I don't see the post. The issues that come to mind are: 1) forwarded minutes. double, or IN? 2) where does it go to VM? target number or forwarded? can you control that with "number of rings to VM"? 3) Txt messaging? (probably not) >> You could just switch the ESN online every morning an >> night but that would be a real pain and I believe they [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > heard that they charged if you called in or went to a > store. I suspect they are moving in that direction. Maybe it's only for CS assisted swaps and there is no cost to them to have customers do it themselves on the site. > Another possibility, if you live alone: have everyone > call your home phone and forward it to whichever cell > you're using at the moment. That works but can be less than ideal for people you call if you transmit caller ID. -Quick >I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even locked in my car's > glove-box in the parking lot - we're subject to searches). [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks Similar problem here. I'm a consultant and many of my clients' plant have "no camera" rules due to proprietary manufacturing processes, new products in prototype development. etc. I also do some work for the Feds and several of the locations I consult at are high security environments with no cameras allowed. My only choice is to leave my phone in the car or at the guard shack-- but then I'm out of touch all day as I've ported my business phone landline to my cell I'm still hanging on to my old LG VX10 that still works well after many years. But when it goes, my choices will be slim for a no-camera tri-mode folder with caller ID visible when the case is closed. LG has one current model but it's big, clunky and has an ugly speaker mounted on the top. I think there's one Moto that may meet my specs. I really liked the VX10 and bought up several on Ebay last year to use for spares when mine died-- but now they're non-activatable due to the lack of E911/GPS. Sucks! Patrick >> I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even >> locked in my car's glove-box in the parking lot - we're [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > they're non-activatable due to the lack of E911/GPS. > Sucks! You would probably like the VX4400 and I believe it can still be activated. -Quick I have the VX4400. It obviosly does not have a camera. We can't have camera phones here either. Here is what I like/don't like about my phone. Like: -all around decent phone. -Nice screen -solid build and feel -nice accessories available. Don't like: -User interface is kinda slow -When you make a change in the GUI, you have to wait for the popup status window to go away by itself or it ignores your changes. -When you turn up the volume, say in Voicemail, it locks out the DTMF keys so you can't navigate through a menu until that blasted status window goes away. (I think you can press clear though). -THe volume is not nearly loud enough on the phone itself. (with volume all the way up) -The volume is WAY to loud on the hands-free port (with volume all the way down) -external screen is multi-colored but you can't use the multicolors for anything useful > >> I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even > >> locked in my car's glove-box in the parking lot - we're [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > -Quick >I have the VX4400. It obviosly does not have a camera. We can't have >camera phones here either. Here is what I like/don't like about my >phone. I just got an E815 to replace my 4400 (which will now be my backup phone). >Like: >-all around decent phone. >-Nice screen >-solid build and feel >-nice accessories available. Agreed. >Don't like: >-User interface is kinda slow If you mean sometimes it doesn't respond right away when you press a button, I know what you mean. >-When you make a change in the GUI, you have to wait for the popup >status window to go away by itself or it ignores your changes. Haven't noticed that. >-When you turn up the volume, say in Voicemail, it locks out the DTMF >keys so you can't navigate through a menu until that blasted status >window goes away. (I think you can press clear though). Or that. >-THe volume is not nearly loud enough on the phone itself. (with volume >all the way up) Only a problem in extremely noisy environments. >-The volume is WAY to loud on the hands-free port (with volume all the >way down) Haven't noticed that either. Maybe it depends on the earpiece (mine's a Jabra). >-external screen is multi-colored but you can't use the multicolors for >anything useful It's not a color display, it just has multiple colors of backlighting. The 4400 also has good, solid reception. Everyone has been talking about how great the 815 is, but it isn't any better than the 4400. SignatureDavid Streeter, "an internet god" -- Dave Barry http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time. "Attention! By order of the new commanding officer, all officers report to the commanding officer's office, sirs." - Corporal 'Radar' O'Reilly >I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even locked in my car's >glove-box in the parking lot - we're subject to searches). I visit sites where camera phones are prohibited also. I carry a Motorola 120e. You can often find new old stock units on eBay for about $50 A_C I'm curious. How is it allowed that they can search your car? Isn't that private property? >I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even locked in my car's > glove-box in the parking lot - we're subject to searches). [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks It is for the general public and "they" (generally) can't search it. As a condition of working at some places of work you agree to let them search it (and usually yourself) if you drive it on the property. If you wish to leave your car parked outside the gate (miles away?) they will not search it. A business could impose, as a condition of employment, that you and your property could be searched anywhere at anytime. You just have to agree to it. -Quick > I'm curious. How is it allowed that they can search your > car? Isn't that private property? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> Thanks >I'm curious. How is it allowed that they can search your car? Isn't that >private property? Look up the term "implied consent". It's the same concept that allows law enforcement to run a breathalyzer on you if they suspect you are driving under the influence of alcohol. You gave "implied consent" when you applied for your drivers license, and if you refuse the test, it's that consent that allows them to take your license on the spot in many states. Entry onto private grounds (where posted) gives implied consent to such searches. I could post a sign on my driveway saying all vehicles entering are subject to search, and the drivers would have two options; consent to search or leave. >> I'm curious. How is it allowed that they can search >> your car? Isn't that private property? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > search, and the drivers would have two options; consent > to search or leave. My guess is that it was "explicit consent". -Quick >My guess is that it was "explicit consent". "Explicit" for the OP, since he probably signed an agreement before starting work there, but "implied" for anyone else who comes onto the property, likely due to signage. Last week I had to take my mother to work and pick her up each night, as her transmission was being worked on. At her plant, there is a visitor parking lot with a gate next to it that had a sign that said something along the lines of "Vehicles entering through this gate are subject to search." Hence, an attempt at entry is implied consent to search. As I sat waiting for her a couple of nights, I'd see a car or truck enter and leave, and the guards shined flashlights into the cars, truck beds, and searched all trunks. Since I didn't try to enter through that gate and did not work there, they had no right (nor did they try) to search me or my vehicle. All they could do is ask me to leave. The best non-camera phone Verizon carries is the Motorola V260, available at Radio Shack. Also the Samsung A570, also available at Radio Shack. They are also available from most agents. >I can't have a camera phone where I work (not even locked in my car's > glove-box in the parking lot - we're subject to searches). [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks Yes I'm an "employee"... I actually work at a secure facility and part of the terms imposed on anyone is searches during entry, exit etc. This includes vehicles (because the vehicle enters their property, and they're the FEDS and they make the rules)... Catch my drift? This is my personal phone. I drive 84 miles a day and don't want to have to leave my phone at home in case of a breakdown. If only just to be reachable during the day or to make personal calls without having to be in my cube using the "company phone" for the world to hear. I'm not required to carry a phone for work, frankly would not want it ;) I'll look into the V260 and that other Samsung... I just want a phone with great reception (like what everyone says about the Moto E815), although analog with it would be even nicer, no camera would be sweet. Thanks for the input guys. The Motorola V260 is Tri Mode and gets incredible reception. The Samsung, as all Samsungs, is all digital. Very good reception. The V260 has great sound quality. > Yes I'm an "employee"... I actually work at a secure facility and part > of the terms imposed on anyone is searches during entry, exit etc. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thanks for the input guys. And if you don't mind a used or refurb phone, the Motorola T730 or T720 is tri-mode, great reception and sound quality. You can get them many places including Ebay. > The Motorola V260 is Tri Mode and gets incredible reception. The Samsung, > as all Samsungs, is all digital. Very good reception. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> Thanks for the input guys. I'd stay away from the 720. I had one and it was the worst phone I've ever owned. A real piece of crap. A friend had one too and didn't have any better luck. Dozens of complaints have been logged on this board (and others) railing against the 720 and 730. > And if you don't mind a used or refurb phone, the Motorola T730 or T720 is > tri-mode, great reception and sound quality. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >>> >>> Thanks for the input guys. My current phone is a Moto T730C and I've had very good luck with it (along with good reception). One reason I'd probably choose to stick with Moto is that the chargers I already have (passed down from my V120C) would work, even with the latest E815, so at least part of my "infrastructure" would not need to be replaced. In the end I just want something durable with great reception. I'll always pine after a camera phone though... Too bad they didn't have a snap-on type camera accessory that could otherwise be removed. > I'd stay away from the 720. I had one and it was the worst phone I've > ever owned. A real piece of crap. A friend had one too and didn't have > any better luck. Dozens of complaints have been logged on this board (and > others) railing against the 720 and 730. Be careful about over generalizing from limited data. The 730 generally gets good marks from most competent reviewers. And if you take your problematic 720 to the VZW store and ask them to update the firmware (which makes it a 730), you'll be quite happy with it too. All the well documented problems with the 720 are immediately fixed by the firmware upgrade-- which is free. Patrick I got rid of that crappy phone long ago. The screen became messed up somehow as well. Looks like something broke inside of it, which is strange because I never dropped it and it only sat in my closet for sometime. Good riddance anyway. >> I'd stay away from the 720. I had one and it was the worst phone I've >> ever owned. A real piece of crap. A friend had one too and didn't have [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Patrick . >>> I'd stay away from the 720. I had one and it was the worst phone I've >>> ever owned. A real piece of crap. A friend had one too and didn't have [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Patrick >I got rid of that crappy phone long ago. The screen became messed up >somehow as well. Looks like something broke inside of it, which is strange >because I never dropped it and it only sat in my closet for sometime. Good >riddance anyway That's an easy one to explain. Most people don't know it but the Moto 720 phone is equipped with a fart sensor. You obviously over loaded it. Patrick Gotta love the smell of my own farts. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, farts!!! Doh!!! > . >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Patrick With the latest software updates, it is an excellent phone. > I'd stay away from the 720. I had one and it was the worst phone I've > ever owned. A real piece of crap. A friend had one too and didn't have [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>>> >>>> Thanks for the input guys. Kyocera kx1v. Decent phone, cheap, does what you say you need. Speakerphone is pretty cheesy, but the phone works pretty well. Also concur with v260 Moto. My wife's has been excellent. Dean ______________________________________________ > Yes I'm an "employee"... I actually work at a secure facility and part > of the terms imposed on anyone is searches during entry, exit etc. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thanks for the input guys. Anybody hear anything about the samsung a570? It looks like what I want. Can I get a USB cable for it? Anybody have the phone? Any comments? It looks nice and small > The best non-camera phone Verizon carries is the Motorola V260, available at > Radio Shack. Also the Samsung A570, also available at Radio Shack. They are [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > Thanks |
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