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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / November 2005Ten and a half years, and now it's over.
Due to their sorry selection of bar style phones (especially from Kyocera), and the need for an extra LOS for my daughter, I have left Verizon Wireless/Bell Atlantic Nynex Mobile/Bell Atlantic Mobile. Much to Lyin' Larry's revelry, I'm sure, I have gone with Alltel. Instead of paying $89.99/mo for two lines so that I could have the Kyocera 444 (which includes having their PTT feature forced upon me), I'll be paying $79.97/mo for three LOS, which means my mother can drop her $15/20min/month "retention" plan. Plus she gets a new Blade phone (along with my daughter), which works very much like her VZW Kyocera 2325 does, so she doesn't have to learn a completely new phone. I also got the KX440. Although it is a PTT phone, I was allowed to have it on a non-PTT plan. When I called VZW CS to get my account number (to facilitate porting my number to Alltel), the CS rep asked if there was anything they could do to keep me. I asked her if they could get with Kyocera and purchase a bar style, non-PTT within the next 6 hours. She laughed for a second, then after realizing I was serious, she said no, apologized and wished me a happy Thanksgiving. Although I will no longer be a VZW customer, I'll still hang out here (like Steve Sobol) to help those who have questions. And unlike Lyin' Larry, I won't be here just to bash VZW or push alternative providers on people when they only have simple questions. Granted, Alltel's coverage here isn't as good as VZW's. But, VZW's coverage wasn't the greatest out here 3 years ago. So I'll take that issue up with Alltel and hopefully get a couple of antennas adjusted to improve the coverage. I had a ball, folks, kind of sorry to leave VZW over this issue, but the writing was on the wall. Y'all take care and I look forward to helping out others who may this way come. > Due to their sorry selection of bar style phones (especially from > Kyocera), and the need for an extra LOS for my daughter, I have left [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > the writing was on the wall. Y'all take care and I look forward to > helping out others who may this way come. It's too bad, in my opinion Verizon had quite a few decent phones. >It's too bad, in my opinion Verizon had quite a few decent phones. The KX444 was a nice phone, I just didn't want to pay an extra $480 over the life of the contract for the privilege of carrying it. I refuse to carry a flip/slider phone. I was looking at the LG9800, but the speakerphone only worked when the phone was open. Besides, staying with a Kyo model means all of the features I've grown accustomed to using with my 3035 will still be there. And if I'm not mistaken, I can still use the same Kyo software I already have. I'll just need a new data cable. I hope the KX440 and the Blade (KX424) use the same cable. >Due to ... I have left Verizon Wireless .... > ..., I have gone with Alltel. Welcome! I hope you are happy; I am with my Total Freedom. > Granted, Alltel's coverage here isn't as good as VZW's. That depends ... there are areas where I have much better coverage than one of my coworkers ... one happens to be his house in Powdersville <g>. Which plan did you pick, NF or GF? >So I'll take that issue up with Alltel and hopefully get a couple >of antennas adjusted to improve the coverage. As I recall, you are in the Fountain Inn area; I visit Faurecia and Southchase regularly, and have very good coverage there (along I385). I drove from Faurecia to Donaldson 2 weeks ago, and had great coverage the whole way ... 418 to Fork Shoals to Antioch Church ... >I had a ball, folks, kind of sorry to leave VZW over this issue, but >the writing was on the wall. Y'all take care and I look forward to >helping out others who may this way come. My daughter wants Verizon because "all my friends are on Verizon" and the M2M is nice. I've offered to pay half ... it is the same as Alltel for her needs. Adding a line on mine is not cost effective. > Welcome! I hope you are happy; I am with my Total Freedom. Oh, oh.....This thread is gonna be trouble...(c;  SignatureLyin' Larry >>Due to ... I have left Verizon Wireless .... >> ..., I have gone with Alltel. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >than one of my coworkers ... one happens to be his house in >Powdersville <g>. Which plan did you pick, NF or GF? NF 900. >>So I'll take that issue up with Alltel and hopefully get a couple >>of antennas adjusted to improve the coverage. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I drove from Faurecia to Donaldson 2 weeks ago, and had great coverage >the whole way ... 418 to Fork Shoals to Antioch Church ... Yeah, but take 418 east into Laurens county (Durbin Road area) and you'll see a lot more service holes. The Alltel tower is off SC418 behind the Kemet plant in Ft. Inn. VZW's tower is behind the Bi-Lo in Ft. Inn. And that tower at 418 and Fork Shoals Rd is VZW and Cingular. The Alltel tower here is near Fairview Rd and 418, behind the Spinx station. I'd expect excellent coverage from most carriers along I-385, I-85, and US25. >>I had a ball, folks, kind of sorry to leave VZW over this issue, but >>the writing was on the wall. Y'all take care and I look forward to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >the M2M is nice. I've offered to pay half ... it is the same as >Alltel for her needs. Adding a line on mine is not cost effective. I won't even let my daughter give her number out. If I add any of her friends to the contact list (and that's a huge *IF*), they'll all have *67 appended before the number. I've already set up her voice mail greeting. It basically says, "Your number is not authorized to contact this phone. Please hang up now. Thank you." I'll just ignore it and leave a message when prompted. Why not just have them turn off the voicemail? Dean ______________________________________ >>>Due to ... I have left Verizon Wireless .... >>> ..., I have gone with Alltel. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > contact this phone. Please hang up now. Thank you." I'll just > ignore it and leave a message when prompted. >Why not just have them turn off the voicemail? Because I (and only I) would sometimes need to leave one for her. > Due to their sorry selection of bar style phones (especially from > Kyocera), and the need for an extra LOS for my daughter, I have left > Verizon Wireless/Bell Atlantic Nynex Mobile/Bell Atlantic Mobile. > Much to Lyin' Larry's revelry, I'm sure, I have gone with Alltel. Christ! I nearly fell out of my chair!...(c; It's like watching the Hindenburg crash and burn. Oh, the horror of it all....(c; > Although I will no longer be a VZW customer, I'll still hang out here > (like Steve Sobol) to help those who have questions. And unlike Lyin' [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and hopefully get a couple of antennas adjusted to improve the > coverage. Whoa! Aren't you in upstate SC? Are you west of Columbia? If so, your coverage just INCREASED! Alltel allows roaming to Verizon and Sprint PCS in the upstate, west of the Columbia system, over past Charlotte in their PRL...no extra charge...(c; Keep an eye on your roaming indicators. You might be using a Verizon or Sprint tower in the upstate. > I had a ball, folks, kind of sorry to leave VZW over this issue, but > the writing was on the wall. Y'all take care and I look forward to > helping out others who may this way come. Welcome to Alltel, Gen., but lose the childish personal attacks. You're smarter than that. Which plan did you get, regional or nationwide? The regional is a better deal if you only travel out of NC/SC occasionally. Lots more minutes/dollar at home and you can buy 100 minutes nationwide for $10 only when you travel. It's just a better deal than 300 minutes of nationwide you hardly ever use. After a couple of months, you'll get a letter from Alltel thanking you for being such a great customer (if you pay your bill on time) and rewarding you with another 100 minutes/month forever. I'm paying $39 for 800 minutes regional, with unlimited N/W, unlimited M2M and free LD, even to Alaska/Hawaii and Puerto Rico. They dropped the regional plan to 1000 minutes N/W and M2M a while back at this price point. Oh, you'll just have to get used to having some place to sit while they work on your phones....and being told the truth by the nice folks out front. Took me a while to get used to it, too....(c; SignatureLyin' Larry >> Due to their sorry selection of bar style phones (especially from >> Kyocera), and the need for an extra LOS for my daughter, I have left [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Christ! I nearly fell out of my chair!...(c; It's like watching the >Hindenburg crash and burn. Oh, the horror of it all....(c; Somehow, I think you'll get over the shock. >> Although I will no longer be a VZW customer, I'll still hang out here >> (like Steve Sobol) to help those who have questions. And unlike Lyin' [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >PRL...no extra charge...(c; Keep an eye on your roaming indicators. You >might be using a Verizon or Sprint tower in the upstate. No, it decreased. My VZW phone had better coverage here at home. The VZW tower is 1.2 miles to my west (on top of a hill), the Alltel tower is 1.3 miles to my east, with no benefit of a hill. I have noticed the roam indicator flicker a couple of times, but never on during a call. It seems as if the phone can find any Alltel signal at all, it goes with their own system, even though VZW's or SPCS's may be stronger. And as point of interest, during the time period last night waiting for the porting to take place, I could call out on either phone, and *both* showed my VZW number on my CID at home. >> I had a ball, folks, kind of sorry to leave VZW over this issue, but >> the writing was on the wall. Y'all take care and I look forward to >> helping out others who may this way come. > >Welcome to Alltel, Gen., but lose the childish personal attacks. You're >smarter than that. Lose the lying and senseless VZW bashing here. My comments to you have not been personal in nature, but directed at specific stupid and incorrect comments you've made here. If you are going to post things as fact, either make damn sure you know what you're talking about or research it before you post. >Which plan did you get, regional or nationwide? The regional is a better >deal if you only travel out of NC/SC occasionally. Lots more >minutes/dollar at home and you can buy 100 minutes nationwide for $10 only >when you travel. It's just a better deal than 300 minutes of nationwide >you hardly ever use. National. I had just put my mother on a plane to DC with her new phone. And we travel to AL, GA, TN, and VA occasionally and I still plan on a return trip to Florida. The peace of mind of a national plan was well worth the price. >After a couple of months, you'll get a letter from Alltel thanking you for >being such a great customer (if you pay your bill on time) and rewarding >you with another 100 minutes/month forever. I'm paying $39 for 800 minutes >regional, with unlimited N/W, unlimited M2M and free LD, even to >Alaska/Hawaii and Puerto Rico. They dropped the regional plan to 1000 >minutes N/W and M2M a while back at this price point. With 10 1/2 years of excellent payment history at BAM/BANM/VZW, I don't see it changing with Alltel. If I do get the 100 minutes, fine. If not, that's fine, too. It's 100 minutes I'll never use anyways. My daughter's phone is getting lock restricted to the contact list. My aim is to not raise yet another cell phone junkie kid. And my mother only calls me when some "emergency" arises. >Oh, you'll just have to get used to having some place to sit while they >work on your phones....and being told the truth by the nice folks out >front. Took me a while to get used to it, too....(c; Strangely, there were no seats in the Alltel store. Maybe VZW stole them all. > It seems as if the phone can find any Alltel signal at all, it > goes with their own system, even though VZW's or SPCS's may be > stronger. Yeah, that's true on any system. The phones used to stop searching in Charleston on an unusable Verizon signal, even though you were staring, longingly, at someone else's working tower. Of course, that was back when the PRLs allowed roaming...damn them. It's all about money.... SignatureLarry > National. I had just put my mother on a plane to DC with her new > phone. And we travel to AL, GA, TN, and VA occasionally and I still > plan on a return trip to Florida. The peace of mind of a national > plan was well worth the price. When I was on LDC, a Florida trip sailing cost me over $400 because I used the phone a lot coordinating repairs to the seawater flooded engine problem. Buying 100 mins national for $10 on Alltel's regional plan would have saved me $370 in roaming charges. I travel like that "occasionally", less and less often as time goes by, unfortunately. So, the regional plans 800 minutes is a better deal for me. The SC/NC region includes a lot of the border states around us on the plan map. If I were going to Birmingham, I'd call 611 and buy some minutes. They don't double-charge you, either. When it roams out of region, it charges against the 100 minute blocks. Come back into the region and it charges your regular minutes. I still got 50-some minutes credit on the bill from last trip out of region. SignatureLarry I left VZW in July & went with TMO. After 4 months I'm very happy with TMO & so is my family. > Due to their sorry selection of bar style phones (especially from > Kyocera), and the need for an extra LOS for my daughter, I have left [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > the writing was on the wall. Y'all take care and I look forward to > helping out others who may this way come. >I left VZW in July & went with TMO. After 4 months I'm very happy with TMO & >so is my family. I've considered TMO before, and am still doing so as I am on the last year of my contract with VZW. I live in the city, so signal from both providers is good. I have the family plan for my wife and me, and by balancing act is between TMO's prices and phones vs VZW's coverage and their Get-It-Now offering. I really like GIN because of the weather radar. As a ham operator, weather is of great interest to me, so where there is VZW service, and questionable clouds, I have ready-access to a reasonably updated radar. My two-way ham radio can only get me so much info - it helps to see the radar image. TMO claimed a few months back they have no plans to add such a radar service. The one time it could be useful might be the one time I have TMO. Thus, at this time (a year away from end of contract), I'm keeping a close eye on both companies. Scott You're a "ghost"... You'll be back, even as an apparition! Good luck, buddy.... SignatureI work for the ILEC ...." stuff happens! " >Due to their sorry selection of bar style phones (especially from >Kyocera), and the need for an extra LOS for my daughter, I have left [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >the writing was on the wall. Y'all take care and I look forward to >helping out others who may this way come. Bye! - - - >sob!< - (waves) - - Bye! |
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