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Motorola E815's (Verizon-packaged) car charger blows fuse every time...

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Xxxxx - 27 Jan 2006 04:19 GMT
Yesterday, I bought an E815, and go the mobile charger, as well. I pugged it
into the ACC socket in my Honda Odyssey, and POOF. The car fuse for that
circuit blew.

Thinking maybe the fuse was soft, I replaced it. POOF.

Thinking maybe the charger was messed up, I exchanged it. POOF.

This is a 15 amp fuse that blue. The phone wasn't even connected. In theory,
I wouldn't have expected it to be drawing much in the way of current until
the phone got connected.

Anyone else seen this sort of thing happen? Is it likely that both chargers
(both off the same rack at a Verizon kiosk in a Circuit City) were bad? Or,
do these suckers simply draw a ton of current (even without a phone
connected)?

I suppose I can use the normal A/C charger in the car with a 110VAC
inverter. But, that's a bit of pain to have to deal with.

The odd thing about the Verizon-packaged charager for the E815... neither
the package nor the device itself provides any clue about how much current
it draws.
Larry - 27 Jan 2006 06:38 GMT
> This is a 15 amp fuse that blue. The phone wasn't even connected. In
> theory, I wouldn't have expected it to be drawing much in the way of
> current until the phone got connected.

Wow...is your battery in negative ground?  Maybe you got a Japanese-home-
version car with positive ground!

Sounds like the polarity on the cigarette lighter is backwards, positive
sleeve and negative end and the fuse-blow protective diode in the phone
cord is trying to protect the phone from reverse polarity.

Got a meter to measure the polarity in the socket?
Xxxxx - 30 Jan 2006 02:08 GMT
This car was made in Canada (Honda Odyssey) or Ohio for NA sale/use. All
other devices I've used in that socket (including various chargers, my
Garmin socket, inverters, etc.) work just fine. Meter shows correct
polarization of the socket.

So, I'm guessing that the Verizon-packaged $29.95 item was a piece of s___,
and I'm lucky to have gotten my money back so easily. Most likely, the
entired run was bad. I've ordered a Motorola charger per another message
here ($10), so I'm $20 ahead of Verizon's price.

>> This is a 15 amp fuse that blue. The phone wasn't even connected. In
>> theory, I wouldn't have expected it to be drawing much in the way of
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>
> Got a meter to measure the polarity in the socket?
Larry - 30 Jan 2006 04:33 GMT
"Xxxxx" <Not_gonna_give@all.com> wrote in news:cyeDf.7699$Cf7.6194
@trnddc06:

> Verizon-packaged $29.95 item was a piece of s___,

You can bet on that....cheapest crap they can find by the lowest bidder....
GeorgeB - 27 Jan 2006 15:18 GMT
>Yesterday, I bought an E815, and go the mobile charger, as well. I pugged it
>into the ACC socket in my Honda Odyssey, and POOF. The car fuse for that
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>do these suckers simply draw a ton of current (even without a phone
>connected)?

My guess is that there is something wrong in the socket and when you
plug the adapter in, a short is created. Take a good luck at the "hot"
and "ground" connections in the plug and socket.

I'm ASSUMING that other things work in the socket?
Jeb  Hoge - 27 Jan 2006 15:29 GMT
I was just wondering that myself, if the OP has tested other devices.
My car charger hasn't given me trouble at all.
Bob the Printer - 27 Jan 2006 20:41 GMT
> Yesterday, I bought an E815, and go the mobile charger, as well. I pugged
> it into the ACC socket in my Honda Odyssey, and POOF. The car fuse for
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> the package nor the device itself provides any clue about how much current
> it draws.

Have you ever used any other devices in that lighter socket?? I have an 815
car cord plugged into my '97 Buick's lighter socket 24/7 and have
experienced no such problem.  In fact, the only time my E815 GETS charged is
when it's out in the car..:-)

And the small amount of current drawn even with the phone plugged in is not
very much (which is why they don't give you a current draw spec on the car
cord).
David S - 28 Jan 2006 04:55 GMT
>Yesterday, I bought an E815, and go the mobile charger, as well. I pugged it
>into the ACC socket in my Honda Odyssey, and POOF. The car fuse for that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>This is a 15 amp fuse that blue. The phone wasn't even connected. In theory,

I presume you can plug other things into that socket with no problem...?

>I wouldn't have expected it to be drawing much in the way of current until
>the phone got connected.

Nor I. Mine certainly doesn't, although I'm not sure at the moment whether
mine's a Moto or aftermarket.

>Anyone else seen this sort of thing happen? Is it likely that both chargers
>(both off the same rack at a Verizon kiosk in a Circuit City) were bad? Or,

Could be.

>do these suckers simply draw a ton of current (even without a phone
>connected)?

No.

>I suppose I can use the normal A/C charger in the car with a 110VAC
>inverter. But, that's a bit of pain to have to deal with.

True, even when you already have the inverter in the car for other reasons.

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SMS - 28 Jan 2006 16:37 GMT
> Yesterday, I bought an E815, and go the mobile charger, as well. I pugged it
> into the ACC socket in my Honda Odyssey, and POOF. The car fuse for that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Thinking maybe the charger was messed up, I exchanged it. POOF.

Are you sure that this was a Motorola brand charger? The car chargers
sold by Verizon are usually an el-cheapo after-market charger (that they
sell for a lot of money).

You want to get the Motorola SYN707
$10 at "http://store.yahoo.com/cellularaccessorycom/syn0707.html"
Enter "gift4u" at checkout for another 7% discount.
Xxxxx - 30 Jan 2006 02:01 GMT
It was packaged as "Verizon". It didn't say Motorola anywhere on the
package. Bought it directly from a Verizon store. I guess I'll try the one
in your link. Thanks for the coupon code... with the other item I ordered,
it knocked $3.50 off my order.

>> Yesterday, I bought an E815, and go the mobile charger, as well. I pugged
>> it into the ACC socket in my Honda Odyssey, and POOF. The car fuse for
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> $10 at "http://store.yahoo.com/cellularaccessorycom/syn0707.html"
> Enter "gift4u" at checkout for another 7% discount.
 
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