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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Verizon / February 2006FS - Verizon Cell Phone - LGVX4400B
http://home.comcast.net/~rd3587/Electronics.html Verizon Cell Phone - LG VX4400B Includes: Handseet Standard Lithium Ion Battery Desktop Charger with Adapter User Guide Quick Reference Guide Welcome CD $60.00 OBO Used - Very good condition - Purchased two years ago. http://home.comcast.net/~rd3587/Electronics.html  SignatureRyan rd3587@comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~rd3587/ Plymouth, Minnesota *Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* *Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* This should read *spamming* newsgroups since 1999.. I don't think that it's spam. > *Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* > > This should read *spamming* newsgroups since 1999.. On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:47:52 GMT, "Ben Skversky" <bskversky1@verizon.net> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and everything: <top-posting corrected> >> *Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* >> >> This should read *spamming* newsgroups since 1999.. > >I don't think that it's spam. But eBay does. The last time I checked, it was a violation of their TOS. SignatureDavid Streeter, "a guy's guy" -- Dave Barry http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time. "You know what they say: those who fail history, doomed to repeat it in summer school." - Buffy to Dawn On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:20:27 GMT, I <me> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and everything: >On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:47:52 GMT, "Ben Skversky" <bskversky1@verizon.net> >chose to add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >But eBay does. The last time I checked, it was a violation of their TOS. Okay, forget that. I didn't even read the spam post and didn't realize it wasn't an eBay auction. But I bet it's a violation of Comcast's TOS for both usenet and web pages. SignatureDavid Streeter, "a guy's guy" -- Dave Barry http://home.att.net/~dwstreeter Remove the naughty bit from my address to reply Expect a train on ANY track at ANY time. "Speaking as one boob man to another, these were not that great. I mean, I've seen a lot better boobs than these. And yet she exposes them on a morning show. Unbelievable!" - Matt Lauer to Jay Leno, on the woman who was broadcast baring it all outside the "Today" show's New York studio > *Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* > > This should read *spamming* newsgroups since 1999.. it isn't spam. it is content of interest to me here in this newsgroup. >> *Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with >> 100% Satisfaction* [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it isn't spam. it is content of interest to me here in > this newsgroup. Great. Self justifying spammers... -Quick > >> *Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with > >> 100% Satisfaction* [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Great. Self justifying spammers... most ignorant people possess enough intelligence to lay low on the issues most likely to demonstrate their ignorance. obviously, you do now. > >> *Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with > >> 100% Satisfaction* [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Great. Self justifying spammers... most ignorant people possess enough intelligence to lay low on the issues most likely to demonstrate their ignorance. obviously, you do not. >>*Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* >> >>This should read *spamming* newsgroups since 1999.. > > it isn't spam. it is content of interest to me here in this newsgroup. But this is a *discussion* group and not a *forsale* group... > >>*Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > But this is a *discussion* group and not a *forsale* group... it is a usenet newsgroup, responsive to the wishes of its readers. when a minority tries to censor content, that is not a good thing. i urge you to create a moderated group where you can control the content. modern newsreaders have filters and kill files. use them for this group to eliminate the materials you wish not to read. but don't presume to eliminate the content others may wish to read. censorship is a very ugly thing. >>>>*Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > censorship is a very ugly thing. Most internet newsgroups have posting guidelines or rules that the posters are at least "encouraged" to follow. This is a Verizon cellular discussion group. It is not ebay and it is not here to sell or exchange goods ... and any attempt to use it for such is, IMO, inappropriate. This has nothing to do with censorship. It's basic internet courtesy. Larry > >>>>*Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > discussion group. It is not ebay and it is not here to sell or exchange > goods ... and any attempt to use it for such is, IMO, inappropriate. i respect your opinion. you should try the same for opinions other than yours. otherwise you become a defacto censor. > This has nothing to do with censorship. on the contrary, it *is* censorship. > It's basic internet courtesy. to respect the opinions of others, even when you disagree with them. try it. >>>>>>*Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > to respect the opinions of others, even when you disagree with them. > try it. I said nothing that indicates I don't respect your opinion. But let's not make this into a political forum. This has nothing to do with censorship. A discussion group is not the place for bartering. Learn something about the internet before making comments like this. Larry > >>>>>>*Selling items on eBay and Newsgroups since 1999 with 100% Satisfaction* > >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I said nothing that indicates I don't respect your opinion. But let's > not make this into a political forum. which is what i suggested. let's not dictate to others what is and is not appropriate. > This has nothing to do with censorship. your repeated denials don't alter the facts, as i told you before. > A discussion group is not the place for bartering. then people who make such posts will find there are no responses. > Learn something about the internet before making comments like > this. you just demonstrated your usenet ignorance. newsgroups aren't the internet. >> censorship is a very ugly thing. > Most internet newsgroups have posting guidelines or rules that the > posters are at least "encouraged" to follow. I don't remember seeing any such "guidelines" posted for alt.cellular.verizon, so certainly if they exist, I don't think anyone has been "encouraged" to follow them. > This is a Verizon cellular > discussion group. It is not ebay and it is not here to sell or exchange > goods No it isn't. Which is why the OP posted an article explaining that he had a Verizon cell phone for sale on ebay, in case anyone was interested. He didn't conduct the bids here, nor did he complete the transaction here. He simply mentioned it for anyone interested. Given that the equipment he was selling was relevant to the carrier being discussed, it seemed pretty relevant to me. If the OP was selling a Sprint, Alltel, Cingular, or T-Mobile-specific phone, then I can see where it would be a big deal and considered irrelevant spam. Likewise if the guy was trying to sell a get rich quick scheme, cheap non-oem knockoff accessories, or various "male enhancing" drugs. Or, if he flooded the group with 5, 10, 100 different copies of the same posting, that too could reasonably be considered annoying and rude. Instead, it's an individual who has a Verizon phone he doesn't want to use anymore, and if anyone wants to buy it off him, then here's how to do it, posted one time only. Seems reasonable enough to me. In fact we've generated far more noise debating the merits of such a post than the actual post itself. > ... and any attempt to use it for such is, IMO, inappropriate. And IMO, it's fortunate that you're not this group's moderator. If you'd like to create a moderated group where you have content control of what's being discussed, then you have every right to do so, by following the steps in the faq at this URL: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/ > This has nothing to do with censorship. It's basic internet courtesy. So is killfile use. Use yours. SignatureE-mail fudged to thwart spammers. Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply. >>> censorship is a very ugly thing. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > alt.cellular.verizon, so certainly if they exist, I don't think anyone > has been "encouraged" to follow them. Well, you're wrong. http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12348&topic=250 and I quote: "Please don't use Usenet as an advertising medium". http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/ and I quote "Usenet is not an advertising medium". http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/advertising/how-to/part1/ and I quote "Advertising is widely seen as an 'off-topic' intrusion into the discussions of any particular newsgroup (newsgroup is the Usenet word for discussion group or bulletin board). Each newsgroup has a specific set of subjects it is intended to cover, and in order for newsgroups to function as effective discussion forums, it is important that people stay 'on-topic'. If everyone disregarded the particular topics each newsgroup is intended to cover and simply posted whatever they wanted wherever they want, the entire system would break down. Due to the decentralized nature of Usenet, there is no one person or body which can "enforce" the custom of staying on-topic. It falls on each user to help preserve the culture of open discussion and free speech that Usenet has come to embody by not posting off-topic material. This, of course, includes advertising. Advertising is by far the most pervasive form of off-topic posting, and therefore, gets most of the heat." >> This is a Verizon cellular discussion group. It is not ebay and it is >> not here to sell or exchange goods > > No it isn't. Which is why the OP posted an article explaining that he > had a Verizon cell phone for sale on ebay, in case anyone was interested. Not the point. He was attempting barter. > He didn't conduct the bids here, nor did he complete the transaction > here. He simply mentioned it for anyone interested. Given that the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > copies of the same posting, that too could reasonably be considered > annoying and rude. True. That would have made it worse. > Instead, it's an individual who has a Verizon phone he doesn't want to > use anymore, and if anyone wants to buy it off him, then here's how to > do it, posted one time only. Seems reasonable enough to me. In fact > we've generated far more noise debating the merits of such a post than > the actual post itself. Perhaps, but it is a matter of principle and sometimes principles take time to discuss and get right. >> ... and any attempt to use it for such is, IMO, inappropriate. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/ Sorry my friend, but it is YOU that needs to create a moderated group if you want to create a forum for posts that are inappropriate. Now ... buzz off ... I don't have anymore time to waste on you and your politically-motivated agenda. >> This has nothing to do with censorship. It's basic internet courtesy. > > So is killfile use. Use yours. L. > Well, you're wrong. None of your links showed any charter or set of rules pertaining to alt.cellular.verizon (in fact, there can't be, being that this newsgroup is unmoderated). All you're posting is someone's opinion and conjecture. >> No it isn't. Which is why the OP posted an article explaining that he >> had a Verizon cell phone for sale on ebay, in case anyone was interested. > Not the point. Then I submit that you're functionally illiterate, and arent' worth spending any more time on. SignatureE-mail fudged to thwart spammers. Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply. >> Well, you're wrong. > > None of your links showed any charter or set of rules pertaining to > alt.cellular.verizon (in fact, there can't be, being that this newsgroup > is unmoderated). All you're posting is someone's opinion and conjecture. Bull. No one's opinion. Internet Newsgroup Usenet guidelines. Anyone who goes to those links can clearly see that this is not the case. >>> No it isn't. Which is why the OP posted an article explaining that >>> he had a Verizon cell phone for sale on ebay, in case anyone was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Then I submit that you're functionally illiterate, and arent' worth > spending any more time on. Only people who know they're wrong and who have nothing to say and no support for their claims resort to name-calling. Larry > > Well, you're wrong. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > <snip> Are the general guidelines of this newsgroup not the same as those of Usenet? Notan > > Well, you're wrong. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Then I submit that you're functionally illiterate, and arent' worth > spending any more time on. most readers think the same of larry. >>>Well, you're wrong. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > most readers think the same of larry. Whatever you say James. Still trying to hide who you really are and what you agenda is ... are you? Larry > >>>Well, you're wrong. > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Whatever you say James. yes, i was quite accurate in this case. > Still trying to hide who you really are and what you agenda is ... > are you? i have posted with my real name since usenet was created, unlike cowards who hide behind alias such as "Larry." > <snip> > > i have posted with my real name since usenet was created, unlike > cowards who hide behind alias such as "Larry." I'm sure you'd change your tune, if some Internet nutcase started throwing your name around. There's nothing wrong with an alias. Notan > > i have posted with my real name since usenet was created, unlike > > cowards who hide behind alias such as "Larry." > > I'm sure you'd change your tune, if some Internet nutcase started > throwing your name around. you don't know any usenet history al all, do you? the ignorance embedded in your comment is staggering. > > > i have posted with my real name since usenet was created, unlike > > > cowards who hide behind alias such as "Larry." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > you don't know any usenet history al all, do you? the ignorance > embedded in your comment is staggering. And this, from a guy that uses gmail. Notan > > > > i have posted with my real name since usenet was created, unlike > > > > cowards who hide behind alias such as "Larry." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And this, from a guy that uses gmail. thank you for validating my statement. >>>i have posted with my real name since usenet was created, unlike >>>cowards who hide behind alias such as "Larry." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > you don't know any usenet history al all, do you? the ignorance > embedded in your comment is staggering. You seem to be very good at name-calling and disparaging people, but very short on any substance or facts. You just don't realize how much of a fool you are making of yourself. People can see right through you. Go ahead ... have a party. Larry > >>>i have posted with my real name since usenet was created, unlike > >>>cowards who hide behind alias such as "Larry." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > you don't know any usenet history al all, do you? the ignorance > > embedded in your comment is staggering. > You seem to be very good at name-calling and disparaging people i am when those i am disparaging act like idiots; people like you who embrace ignorance. >>>>>i have posted with my real name since usenet was created, unlike >>>>>cowards who hide behind alias such as "Larry." [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > i am when those i am disparaging act like idiots; people like you who > embrace ignorance. You couldn't possibly know anything about me. Like pot calling kettle black. Go away. Larry > >>You seem to be very good at name-calling and disparaging people > > > > i am when those i am disparaging act like idiots; people like you who > > embrace ignorance. >> > You couldn't possibly know anything about me. unlike you, i read what people post. your posts define you. >>>>You seem to be very good at name-calling and disparaging people >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > unlike you, i read what people post. your posts define you. You know ... I'm going to say this to you ... and then I'm going to suggest that we just finally let this thread die. Did you ever get the thought that there may actually be two Larrys that post to this ng? Check it out. You've got the wrong one. Anyway, as far as this thread is concerned, let's let it die already. I'm mature enough to suggest that ... are you mature enough to comply? Larry > >>>>You seem to be very good at name-calling and disparaging people > >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > thought that there may actually be two Larrys that post to this ng? > Check it out. You've got the wrong one. i know there is more than one "Larry" and know too that i replied to the one i intended to reply to. nice try. > Anyway, as far as this thread is concerned, let's let it die already. that's fine with me. > >> censorship is a very ugly thing. > > Most internet newsgroups have posting guidelines or rules that the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > alt.cellular.verizon, so certainly if they exist, I don't think anyone > has been "encouraged" to follow them. there haven't been any. larry is very ignorant of newsgroups and how they work. > > This is a Verizon cellular > > discussion group. It is not ebay and it is not here to sell or exchange > > goods > > No it isn't. Which is why the OP posted an article explaining that he > had a Verizon cell phone for sale on ebay, in case anyone was interested. yes, it was handled quite courteously. > He didn't conduct the bids here, nor did he complete the transaction > here. He simply mentioned it for anyone interested. Given that the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/ i have previously explained this to larry. > > This has nothing to do with censorship. It's basic internet courtesy. > > So is killfile use. Use yours. he's a control freak. Or get a brand new phone from Verizon for FREE! Some time around Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:25:56 -0600 (give or take a month), someone who says they are named FOR SALE <rd3587@comcast.net> fired up the tubes on the teletype and rambled on about: >http://home.comcast.net/~rd3587/Electronics.html > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >http://home.comcast.net/~rd3587/Electronics.html -W |
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