Verizon SIM card default PIN2

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Mark Crispin - 26 May 2006 16:55 GMT

[re-sending since I don't think it got through the last time]

Does anyone know what the default PIN2 is on a Verizon SIM card? 0000
(the value printed on the blister pack) doen't work; it didn't work for
the PIN either. Verizon's global department gave me the PUK so I was able
to fix the PIN, but they didn't have a clue about the PUK2 so I can't fix
the PIN2.

I don't want to experiment; the SIM card already has two incorrect PIN2 tries
and the third one will lock the card unless I get the PUK2 code.

If any Verizon Wireless employees have a clue about how to get the PUK2 code,
please get in touch with me. The people who answer the phones in the global
roaming department knew about the PUK and gave me that code, but not the PUK2.
They said that they did a search through their knowledgebase and didn't find
anything.

[Yes, there is such a thing as a Verizon SIM card. It's actually a Vodafone NL
SIM card with the Verizon logo on it, and it's used if you have global roaming
service. For what it's worth, TELUS Mobility in Canada uses SIM cards from
Viking in Iceland.]

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RWEmerson - 26 May 2006 17:28 GMT

> [re-sending since I don't think it got through the last time]
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> able to fix the PIN, but they didn't have a clue about the PUK2 so I
> can't fix the PIN2.

[SNIP]

I was not aware that Verizon had any GSM service; if the phone isn't
GSM, then it has no SIM card

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AP - 26 May 2006 18:05 GMT

> > [re-sending since I don't think it got through the last time]
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I was not aware that Verizon had any GSM service; if the phone isn't
> GSM, then it has no SIM card

Thats what I thought (?!) Something new to me :)

AP

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RWEmerson - 26 May 2006 18:29 GMT

>>> [re-sending since I don't think it got through the last time]
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> AP

Now that I reflect, VZW does have an "international" phone that has a
SIM for use outside the US. I believe US service is ONLY CDMA. Perhaps
that's what the OP has...

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Mark Crispin - 26 May 2006 19:51 GMT

Now, is there someone who can actually answer the question as to what is
my initial PIN2, or what to tell the customer service people to look for
to get my PUK2? As I said, they found the PUK and gave it to me, but
could't find anything about the PUK2.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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Mark Crispin - 26 May 2006 19:49 GMT

> I was not aware that Verizon had any GSM service; if the phone isn't
> GSM, then it has no SIM card

I thought that I had already explained this. From my posting:

[Yes, there is such a thing as a Verizon SIM card. It's actually a Vodafone
NL SIM card with the Verizon logo on it, and it's used if you have global
roaming service. For what it's worth, TELUS Mobility in Canada uses SIM
cards from Viking in Iceland.]

For further information about Verizon's global roaming service, please
read:

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobileoptions/internationalsvcs/globalphone/i
ndex.jsp

Yes, my Verizon phone is a dual CDMA 850/1900-GSM 900/1800. CDMA for
North America and a limited set of other countries, GSM otherwise.

By the way, SIM cards are not confined to GSM. Nextel's iDEN uses SIM
cards, as do some overseas W-CDMA networks (e.g., Japan).

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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RWEmerson - 26 May 2006 20:44 GMT

>> I was not aware that Verizon had any GSM service; if the phone isn't
>> GSM, then it has no SIM card
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> -- Mark --

Great, Mark - you're so smart figure out the answer yourself,
self-important jerk!

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Quick - 26 May 2006 20:50 GMT

>>> I was not aware that Verizon had any GSM service; if
>>> the phone isn't GSM, then it has no SIM card
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> For further information about Verizon's global roaming
>> service, please read:

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobileoptions/internationalsvcs/globalpho
ne/index.jsp

>> Yes, my Verizon phone is a dual CDMA 850/1900-GSM
>> 900/1800. CDMA for North America and a limited set of
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Great, Mark - you're so smart figure out the answer
> yourself, self-important jerk!

? I thought his clarification was very well put with references,
clear explanation, etc. I was anticipating the 20 or so messages
to the effect of "VZW is CDMA and doesn't have SIMs" and
the resulting confusion. I found his reply interesting and
informative. Is here more behind this?

-Quick

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Mark Crispin - 26 May 2006 22:08 GMT

> ? I thought his clarification was very well put with references,
> clear explanation, etc. I was anticipating the 20 or so messages
> to the effect of "VZW is CDMA and doesn't have SIMs" and
> the resulting confusion. I found his reply interesting and
> informative. Is here more behind this?

Sadly, there are kids such as "RWEmerson" who think that they know it all,
and become abusive when it's shown otherwise.

If he really knew it all, he would have known that the only way to get the
PUK and PUK2 codes of a SIM is from the carrier. I tried that. VZW's
representatives are only trained on the PUK, not the PUK2.

VZW prints on the blister pack for the SIM that the initial PIN and PIN2
is 0000. It isn't.

I was hoping by posting to this forum, I would reach a Verizon techie who
has a clue about the PUK2, and can tell me what to tell the representative
to do on the computer to get it for me.

I guess that that was excessively optimistic.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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Bob Phil - 29 May 2006 08:35 GMT

Mark,

Granted you may have tried, but try posting this question over at
HowardForums, you may have better luck.

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Bob Phil - 29 May 2006 08:49 GMT

Mark,

Granted you may have tried, but try posting this question over at
HowardForums, you may have better luck.

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