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Verizon Customer Service Not Winning Me Over!
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Kyle :o) - 12 Jun 2006 23:36 GMT Well my wife and I took the plunge this past weekend and decided to go with Verizon after lots of input from this group, as well as from all the helpful websites you've given us to view and ask questions in. But then - Verizon's customer service really pulled a stinker.
We went online to the website and ordered our phones through there - due largely to the fact that the online site had a much better offer than anything the stores could do after we asked both locations here in the Toledo area that we were close to. We each decided on the Motorola E815 phone, thanks largely due to great comments from other users as well as my wife's brother having one that got at least 2-bars (with antenna) here where we live. After completing all of the needed information, giving our CC# and all of that, and typing in where we'd like it sent to and hitting the SUBMIT button then we get an e-mail from Verizon.
Verizon's e-mail states that they use FedEx for shipping and that a signature is required by them before the phones can be delivered. EXCUSE ME? This could not have been stated someplace on the website during the shipping address process? How lame! So we immediately send Verizon back an e-mail stating that there is no one here until after 6pm each night, typically too late for FedEx, and asking if they can instead ship to my work address (where I typically have anything sent that requires signatures with the owner's blessing). Now this was sent no later than 5 minutes AFTER getting the initial e-mail from Verizon regarding the order.
Sunday we get an e-mail confirming shipment to our home address, tracking number and what the new main phone number for the account is. We immediately check the FedEx site, find it will be delivered on Wednesday, and decide to try and call FedEx. The nice person there states that they can't help us because it is the shipper that must authorize this, as FedEx doesn't know us from Adam. Point taken - good call on FedEx's part. So we call Verizon and get Pepe in customer service. After he takes all my work information, verifies the account and verifies my identity via some questions only I would know, he places me on hold for 5 minutes to come back and say "We're sorry but Verizon cannot change the shipping." DOUBLE EXCUSE ME?
He "claims" that all we need to do is leave a note for FedEx on Wednesday, with my signature, and they will leave the package in a designated place of our choosing. Yea - and donkey's will fly out my butt in two minutes! We call FedEx, they say that yes it is "possible" that this could happen, but it is the driver's discretion as to whether this happens or not. Standard procedure is the driver will leave a call tag on the door with space to sign. We have to sign it and call FedEx to schedule a re-delivery. The driver will collect it and then deliver the package to any place at the address.
Today Verizon FINALLY answers back - they cannot change the shipping because it's already left the building. Then WHY did FedEx say that it was possible? They're the shipper - FedEx makes policy and states that the shipper CAN change it if they desire to. So what it comes down to is this -- Verizon CAN'T because they WON'T!
Strike One Verizon! Your customer service - is being given 2 stars out of a possible 5 right now. About the only thing that was decent was the politeness of the guy on the other side of the world in some call center in India or Pakistan who's real name is Hadji and Pepe is just one of his many code names for his "Verizon help line" he monitors, along with being "Madam Grizelda the Fortune Teller" - "Mistress Brandi the BDSM Phone Dominatrix" -- and "Samantha Foxxx the naughty nurse from 1-976-screw-me!"
Outsourcing - gotta love it!! ;-)
 Signature Kyle :o)
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GolfGod - 13 Jun 2006 00:35 GMT DOUBLE EXCUSE
> ME? Oh, you're DOUBLE EXCUSED.
Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:50 GMT In news:EamdnTlty9bZYRDZnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@comcast.com, GolfGod <golfgod@comcast.net> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> Oh, you're DOUBLE EXCUSED. Oh gee - that's a good one! Do you right your own material? You should take your act out on the road! Man you're funny. That's almost as good as, "You are the weakest link - goodbye!"
GolfGod - 15 Jun 2006 02:59 GMT > In news:EamdnTlty9bZYRDZnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@comcast.com, GolfGod Oh gee - > that's a good one! Do you right your own material? You should Well, sort of, I do write my own material.
> take your act out on the road! Man you're funny. That's almost as good > as, "You are the weakest link - goodbye!" I was just reiterating what you already said.
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Kevin M - 17 Jun 2006 21:24 GMT >> In news:EamdnTlty9bZYRDZnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@comcast.com, GolfGod Oh gee - >> that's a good one! Do you right your own material? You should [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > <plonk> Plonk the crack of my a.s dude!
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 16 Jun 2006 13:47 GMT "Kyle :o\)" <GoSensGo@bringhomethecup.com> wrote:
> In news:EamdnTlty9bZYRDZnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@comcast.com, GolfGod > <golfgod@comcast.net> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > take your act out on the road! Man you're funny. That's almost as good as, > "You are the weakest link - goodbye!" Why did you even respond to this? Your original post sounded mostly reasonable until you started talking about Haji ... but now you are just being hostile.
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Lena - 13 Jun 2006 00:49 GMT > Strike One Verizon! Your customer service - is being given 2 stars out of a > possible 5 right now. For gawd's sake, Puleeze, cancel your service within the 14 day trial period, and make everyone happy, including the folks at Verizon's Customer Service.
Lena
Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:49 GMT In news:1150156154.336117.229030@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, Lena <lenagainster@gmail.com> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> For gawd's sake, Puleeze, cancel your service within the 14 day trial > period, and make everyone happy, including the folks at Verizon's > Customer Service. > > Lena Oh yea, this from a GoogleGroups user (aka: too cheap to get newsgroups any other way). Okay - I'll get right on that suggestion -- when the Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup in '06 and Usama bin Laden is crowned King Of The World!
Evan Platt - 19 Jun 2006 15:36 GMT On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:49:16 -0400, "Kyle :o\)" <GoSensGo@BringHomeTheCup.com> wrote:
>Oh yea, this from a GoogleGroups user (aka: too cheap to get newsgroups any >other way). Okay - I'll get right on that suggestion -- when the Maple >Leafs win the Stanley Cup in '06 and Usama bin Laden is crowned King Of The >World! Ok so let me state, as a non google groups user to a Microshaft OutHouse user:
"For gawd's sake, Puleeze, cancel your service within the 14 day trial period, and make everyone happy, including the folks at Verizon's Customer Service."
There.
Happy now?
Paul_B - 13 Jun 2006 00:52 GMT > He "claims" that all we need to do is leave a note for FedEx on Wednesday, > with my signature, and they will leave the package in a designated place of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > driver will collect it and then deliver the package to any place at the > address. FedEx does work on driver discretion. The drivers really are sub-contractors. Around here at least, they also deliver on Saturdays.
Dean - 13 Jun 2006 02:32 GMT ....And at least hereabouts, if we leave a note, FedEx will leave the packages with a neighbor.
Dean
>> He "claims" that all we need to do is leave a note for FedEx on >> Wednesday, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > sub-contractors. Around here at least, they also deliver on > Saturdays. Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:48 GMT In news:9ualft0ym2cb$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid, Paul_B <pb_publicSeeReply-To@operamail.com> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> FedEx does work on driver discretion. The drivers really are > sub-contractors. Around here at least, they also deliver on > Saturdays. Well I've only worked with FedEx once before on a pickup and did not realize they were sub-contractors. Thanks - this gives me a little wiggle room to play with and hopefully the driver will be kind enough to place it in a safe spot. I've got an envelope marked and ready for him so hopefully it will work. And thank you for being about the only decent poster in here to reply to this.
Ben Skversky - 15 Jun 2006 02:56 GMT Everyone is wrong but Kyle.
> In news:9ualft0ym2cb$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid, Paul_B > <pb_publicSeeReply-To@operamail.com> first attempted to communicate with [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > hopefully it will work. And thank you for being about the only decent > poster in here to reply to this. DonR. - 13 Jun 2006 03:16 GMT Don't blame Verizon or FedEx. Blame the crooks that defraud by having stuff delivered to a different address than the person paying for it, or steal stuff left by delivery people on peoples porches. When I ship something, I always require a signature or I won't ship it. I had a camera stolen from a reciprient's carport that a FedEx driver left, even though I had specified signature required. It was a major hassle. The driver even stated that a neighbor had witnessed him leave it there. Duh!!!
> Well my wife and I took the plunge this past weekend and decided to go > with Verizon after lots of input from this group, as well as from all the [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > Outsourcing - gotta love it!! ;-) Frankster - 13 Jun 2006 14:44 GMT > signature required. It was a major hassle. The driver even stated that a > neighbor had witnessed him leave it there. Duh!!! If it weren't so insane it would be funny. Geeze, what a dork!
Don't get me wrong, I know these delivery guys do the best they can. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. But... to state that he knows the neighbor witnessed him leave it (LOL!). Guess you neighbor has a new phone...heh? :)
-Frank
Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:45 GMT In news:Tdpjg.5030$lf4.3256@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, DonR. <drennardnospam@earthlink.net> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> Don't blame Verizon or FedEx. Blame the crooks that defraud by having > stuff delivered to a different address than the person paying for it, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > hassle. The driver even stated that a neighbor had witnessed him > leave it there. Duh!!! Of course I don't blame FedEx - THEY were the ones that said Verizon could alter it! Gawd - English -- it's not that hard to read, people! And I do blame Verizon. If they'd been honest and said, "Sir we won't redirect this because of ...." I would have listened to their reason and gone from there. But instead I got the word CAN'T - not WON'T -- CAN'T Try looking them up, there IS a difference. Won't implies a refusal to do something based on some kind of a reason. CAN'T implies completely impossible - out of their hands.
I used to work in a shipping department as part of my many "hats" I wore for a very small sign and label company - mostly because I knew computers and the others were lame at it. I had several people call me on various occasions and ask me the VERY SAME THING - and after a few moments on the 1-800 line with UPS (or with asking the driver if he happened to be there) I was able to get packages re-routed easily and in plenty of time.
Don't believe me? Call UPS. In fact, call FedEx - since they were the ones we called regarding this and told me that yes, Verizon could alter the shipping.
RNess - 13 Jun 2006 03:16 GMT You may have a (small) beef with customer service, but from what I read here, VERY small one. Maybe some mis-information...
It isn't Verizon. I've tried to change shipping on something sent via UPS, FEDEX, DHL - all the same and from Dell, Amazon, Buy.com, etc, etc. This is NOT Verizon's fault or frankly anything they can do anything about. Once a package leaves them, it's in the system and it's the Shippers' deal.
There is FRAUD rampant out there and most of this is to ensure the security of a shipment. Also, you will find that after 1 delivery attempt, you can call and arrange delivery options, such as alternate address, will call, etc, etc.
Me thinks you need to chill...
> Well my wife and I took the plunge this past weekend and decided to go with Verizon after lots of input from this > group, as well as from all the helpful websites you've given us to view and ask questions in. But then - Verizon's [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Outsourcing - gotta love it!! ;-) Larry - 13 Jun 2006 04:41 GMT > You may have a (small) beef with customer service, but from what > I read here, VERY small one. Maybe some mis-information... [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >> >>Outsourcing - gotta love it!! ;-) I tend to agree. You can't fault Verizon once the shipping process begins. However, I would agree that it is reasonable for Verizon to somewhere state up front that shipping is "signature required". This is one of the things that I don't like about ordering things electronically. If you speak to a human, he/she may tell you this up front ... and if not, at least you have the opportunity to ask.
Larry E.
Quick - 13 Jun 2006 05:14 GMT > I tend to agree. You can't fault Verizon once the > shipping process begins. However, I would agree that it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > you this up front ... and if not, at least you have the > opportunity to ask. Yea, they could. There is also reasonable expectation. What would you expect if someone was going to ship you about $500 of (retail) equipment? That was all ready to activate automatically and use? You might guess they would ship it signature required? It avoids you calling later saying you never received it and you aren't paying the $5000 phone bill for hundreds of calls to Batswana.
You ordered from the web. They have 30+ million customers. My guess is that it's completely automated. Your email is going to go somewhere other than the warehouse and be read by a human being. So sending it 5 minutes later might as well be a day.
I'm anxiously awaiting strike 2 against VZW CS. I told them to leave it under the bushes. It wasn't there and now they still expect me to pay for them....
-Quick
Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:59 GMT In news:kYqjg.95441$H71.8927@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com, Quick <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> Yea, they could. There is also reasonable expectation. > What would you expect if someone was going to ship [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > later saying you never received it and you aren't paying > the $5000 phone bill for hundreds of calls to Batswana. WRONG! I just ordered a $700 air cleaner from a company a week ago and it came via UPS with no signature required. It's up to the company that sends - not the shipper - as to whether a package needs a signature. I've had $10 items shipped that required a signature by one company and months later ordered something similar and it came without a required signature for delivery by the same shipper. Next time - don't make things up to impress people. It only makes you look weak.
I used to work in a shipping department as part of my many "hats" I wore for a very small sign and label company - mostly because I knew computers and the others were lame at it. I had several people call me on various occasions and ask me the VERY SAME THING - and after a few moments on the 1-800 line with UPS (or with asking the driver if he happened to be there) I was able to get packages re-routed easily and in plenty of time.
Don't believe me? Call UPS. In fact, call FedEx - since they were the ones we called regarding this and told me that yes, Verizon could alter the shipping. So next time pinky-jo - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Quick - 15 Jun 2006 02:03 GMT > I wrote: >> Yea, they could. There is also reasonable expectation. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > WRONG! It's up to the company that sends - not the shipper - as to > whether a package needs a signature. Isn't that what I said? "you should learn the language before starting a conversation..."
> I used to work in a shipping department as part of my I think "used to" is notable here.
> Well I've only worked with FedEx once before on a pickup No one really expected you know anything about it...
> Don't believe me? No. But, who cares?
Hope this helped, -Quick
Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:56 GMT In news:Ztqjg.67$Yq7.15@fe12.lga, Larry <Larry@nospam.net> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> I tend to agree. You can't fault Verizon once the shipping process > begins. However, I would agree that it is reasonable for Verizon to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Larry E. Yes I can fault Verizon - especially when FedEx, the delivery company in question, tells me that Verizon CAN change it! I used to work in a shipping department as part of my many "hats" I wore for a very small sign and label company - mostly because I knew computers and the others were lame at it. I had several people call me on various occasions and ask me the VERY SAME THING - and after a few moments on the 1-800 line with UPS (or with asking the driver if he happened to be there) I was able to get packages re-routed easily and in plenty of time.
Don't believe me? Call UPS. In fact, call FedEx - since they were the ones we called regarding this and told me that yes, Verizon could alter the shipping.
But you are right - Verizon and other companies SHOULD put a disclaimer on their websites prior to the shipping information being requested. Most companies do not, but some do who have been through this before and even tell you how it's shipping (FedEx, UPS, USPS, etc.) prior to doing this step so that you can opt out if need be. It's one reason I don't buy from Amazon unless I have it shipped to my work address - (1) Their rates for anything other than USPS are crazy! And (2) I don't trust the Postal Service.
My wife's had TWO credit cards lose their magnetic strip and need replacing in the same 3 week period and neither one showed up at home! Luckily no damage was done to our account, but between that and a very expensive training blade for hockey going missing (also sent by USPS because it came from Canada) I don't trust the mail carriers out here.
Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:42 GMT In news:Raqdnck29vCMvRPZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com, RNess <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> You may have a (small) beef with customer service, but from what > I read here, VERY small one. Maybe some mis-information... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Shippers' > deal. WRONG! I used to work in a shipping department as part of my many "hats" I wore for a very small sign and label company - mostly because I knew computers and the others were lame at it. And let's just say this - YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SQUAT! I had several people call me on various occasions and ask me the VERY SAME THING - and after a few moments on the 1-800 line with UPS (or with asking the driver if he happened to be there) I was able to get packages re-routed easily and in plenty of time.
Don't believe me? Call UPS. In fact, call FedEx - since they weere the ones we called regarding this and told me that yes, Verizon could alter the shipping. So next time pinky-jo - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT - DON'T just make this sh.t up as you go!
Isaiah Beard - 13 Jun 2006 05:35 GMT > Verizon's e-mail states that they use FedEx for shipping and that a > signature is required by them before the phones can be delivered. EXCUSE > ME? This could not have been stated someplace on the website during the > shipping address process? How lame! So basically, you wanted Fedex to drop on your doorstep two fully activated, expensive phones for just ANYONE to pickup? I can see where this is going.
> So we immediately send Verizon back an > e-mail stating that there is no one here until after 6pm each night, > typically too late for FedEx, and asking if they can instead ship to my work > address (where I typically have anything sent that requires signatures with > the owner's blessing). Now this was sent no later than 5 minutes AFTER > getting the initial e-mail from Verizon regarding the order. You're basing your timing on an automatically generated message. Yeah, I definitely see where this is going...
> He "claims" that all we need to do is leave a note for FedEx on Wednesday, > with my signature, and they will leave the package in a designated place of > our choosing. Yea - and donkey's will fly out my butt in two minutes! Actually, I have done this before for non critical packages. As long as the Fedex driver has a signature taht he can take with him, and sees that the drop-off location is reasonably safe, i.e. the package isn't going to get run over, not going to get wet int eh rain, etc), then the driver will leave the package and take the note as evidence that authorized the drop.
Additionally, there's a form you can fill out with FedEx that permanently exempts an address from requiring a signature. If you do this though, you have to realize that you're releasing FedEx to deliver ANY Fedex package sent to you without a signature, and if someone happens by and steals the package before you get there, well, it's no one's fault but your own.
> We > call FedEx, they say that yes it is "possible" that this could happen, but > it is the driver's discretion as to whether this happens or not. Exactly right. most will gladly leave the package, unless they clearly see that doing so would guarnatee that the package is going to get damaged or "lost."
> Standard > procedure is the driver will leave a call tag on the door with space to > sign. We have to sign it and call FedEx to schedule a re-delivery. The > driver will collect it and then deliver the package to any place at the > address. That's another way of doing it. A third way is to take the door tag that's left on your doorstep and bring it to the Fedex facility listed on the tag, and pick up your package there at the counter. You just need to show ID. The FedEx facility near me is usually open until 8:00 p.m. on weeknights, giving people plenty of time after work to pick up any undelivered packages.
> Strike One Verizon! Your customer service - is being given 2 stars out of a > possible 5 right now. I really don't see why you're bashing Verizon CS for shipping to an address that YOU gave them, to ship a package that any reasonable person knows is going to require some extra TLC to receive. Have you ever ordered anything online before? It's not like you can just cram a cell phone, battery, charger and manuals into a mailbox and have everything be okay. And no shipper that I know of regularly delivers after hours; they ALL do it during the day, when most people are at work.
> About the only thing that was decent was the > politeness of the guy on the other side of the world in some call center in > India or Pakistan who's real name is Hadji and Pepe is just one of his many > code names for his "Verizon help line" he monitors, along with being "Madam > Grizelda the Fortune Teller" - "Mistress Brandi the BDSM Phone > Dominatrix" -- and "Samantha Foxxx the naughty nurse from 1-976-screw-me!"
> Outsourcing - gotta love it!! ;-) Actually, Verizon is one of the few companies who does NOT outsource. So, you're making assumptions that have no basis in fact at all. And besides, if you're convinced that they outsource and are obviously so against it, why did you do business with them in the first place? Cingular not only keeps their reps in the US, but many of them are unionized. Maybe you should go with them; you'll probably be much happier... until the billing problems and coverage issues start, anyway.
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Mike Levy - 13 Jun 2006 22:58 GMT >> Verizon's e-mail states that they use FedEx for shipping and that a >> signature is required by them before the phones can be delivered. EXCUSE [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >happens by and steals the package before you get there, well, it's no >one's fault but your own. Apparently you don't even need to fill out a form. I had $500 of computer equipment delivered to me, in the rain, with "signature required" and it was just dropped off. The tracking info said a signature release was on file when only a month before I received something from Verizon (also FedEx) and I had the call-tag stating I either needed to sign or I could pick up at the local facility. Nobody at my address filled out and signed such a form between the 2 deliveries.
One of the neighbors was kind enough to bring the packages of computer equipment inside our back porch, out of the rain and away from prying eyes. UPS had delivered one of them, the FedEx package was wrapped in a plastic bag with the open end facing down, the UPS one had just been left there.
> > We >> call FedEx, they say that yes it is "possible" that this could happen, but [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >unionized. Maybe you should go with them; you'll probably be much >happier... until the billing problems and coverage issues start, anyway. Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:41 GMT In news:128sg4rrqu10917@corp.supernews.com, Isaiah Beard <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> So basically, you wanted Fedex to drop on your doorstep two fully > activated, expensive phones for just ANYONE to pickup? I can see > where this is going. <SNIP of a lot of nonsense>
Again, shows how much you know. The phones are NOT fully activated, Einstein. And no, we did NOT want them to drop them anyplace for anyone to pick up. Gawd you people need to learn a little thing called "english" - it really does help to know the language and how to read it when you start a conversation! We asked Verizon to re-direct the shipment to my work so that they WOULD NOT be sitting out on the porch. Gawd - pathetic! Can't even read! Just jacks his mouth before thinking!
> That's another way of doing it. A third way is to take the door tag > that's left on your doorstep and bring it to the Fedex facility listed > on the tag, and pick up your package there at the counter. You just > need to show ID. The FedEx facility near me is usually open until > 8:00 p.m. on weeknights, giving people plenty of time after work to > pick up any undelivered packages. Well bucko that's fine - if I knew where it was and if it wasn't for the fact that after we found out where it was we'd be making another 30-mile trek back to it after having already driven 30-miles to home to get the stupid form off the door that would have been left! So you see - that's 30 miles extra and another gallon of gas blown. Oh that's right, I forgot - Americans don't give a rats a.s about wasting fuel - that's why most of you drive SUVs out in the middle of corn county or in places where they've never had a snowflake!
>> Strike One Verizon! Your customer service - is being given 2 stars >> out of a possible 5 right now. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > after hours; they ALL do it during the day, when most people are at > work. Yes I have. In fact I ordered a $700 air cleaner that never required a signature. So - any OTHER smart comments, Mr. Know-It-All? The whole process of "signatuire required" is made by the shipper - NOT by the amount being shipped. I've had a company before that requested my signature for a $10 item and yet no signature for the aforementioned $700 item. It just depends on the shipper. Gee, you just fall out of a Home Depot truck filled with kitchen cabinets and cocaine, or what?
Ronald L - 13 Jun 2006 12:29 GMT Get a grip man! Do Verizon a favor and go to Cingular!
> Well my wife and I took the plunge this past weekend and decided to go > with Verizon after lots of input from this group, as well as from all the > helpful websites you've given us to view and ask questions in. Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:32 GMT In news:Plxjg.60$rz4.59@fe11.lga, Ronald L <EW@gset.net> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> Get a grip man! Do Verizon a favor and go to Cingular! Obviously someone that works in customer service - or screws someone that does ;-)
Full Name - 14 Jun 2006 03:39 GMT On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:36:43 -0400, "Kyle :o\)" <GoSensGo@BringHomeTheCup.com> wrote:
GO TO CINGULAR, T-Mobile, Or Nextel/Sprint BUT Dont come to Verizon,
>Well my wife and I took the plunge this past weekend and decided to go with >Verizon after lots of input from this group, as well as from all the helpful >websites you've given us to view and ask questions in. But then - Verizon's >customer service really pulled a stinker. You call signing on with a cell phone company taking a plunge? Pathetic, TMobile loves people like you. Take the old lady to the hot tub and plunge her.
>We went online to the website and ordered our phones through there - due >largely to the fact that the online site had a much better offer than [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >all of that, and typing in where we'd like it sent to and hitting the SUBMIT >button then we get an e-mail from Verizon. Well at least you picked a good phone, if you hack it , its even better.
>Verizon's e-mail states that they use FedEx for shipping and that a >signature is required by them before the phones can be delivered. EXCUSE [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >the owner's blessing). Now this was sent no later than 5 minutes AFTER >getting the initial e-mail from Verizon regarding the order. You could have gotten the tracking number from Verizon and called fedex and after the first attempt they would have held it on station.
Done this many times with Dell's and telling Haji that I want it held at station.
>Sunday we get an e-mail confirming shipment to our home address, tracking >number and what the new main phone number for the account is. We [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >driver will collect it and then deliver the package to any place at the >address. HE DID HIS JOB, and is 200% correct, r u a MORON, it left Verizons facility, they cant do jack
>Today Verizon FINALLY answers back - they cannot change the shipping because >it's already left the building. Then WHY did FedEx say that it was >possible? They're the shipper - FedEx makes policy and states that the >shipper CAN change it if they desire to. So what it comes down to is >this -- Verizon CAN'T because they WON'T! Nope they cant, and you were already told this. I cant believe that you went through all of this for a lousy cell phone, u and the old lady dont have lives outside the cellphone kingdom
>Strike One Verizon! Strike ON YOU FOR BEING A MORON
> Your customer service - is being given 2 stars out of a >possible 5 right now. About the only thing that was decent was the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Outsourcing - gotta love it!! ;-) LIKE EVERY ONE ELSE SAID
GO TO CINGULAR, T-Mobile, Or Nextel/Sprint BUT Dont come to Verizon,
Kyle :o) - 14 Jun 2006 23:32 GMT In news:02tu825m2uki0afra8upc6hcm9m82so3s6@4ax.com, Full Name <dontwantyouremail@nospam.nycap.com> first attempted to communicate with pen, but the writing was small, so next used sidewalk chalk, but the rain washed it away, and then switched to spray paint and stencils but the cans exploded, so placed fingers to keyboard for this:
> HE DID HIS JOB, and is 200% correct, r u a MORON, it left Verizons > facility, they cant do jack Obviously YOU and about 5 other people just got off the boat from Havanna yesterday, right? Only thing is, you're about the only one being so stupid as to call people names - so I picked in you out of the bunch first.
I used to work in a shipping department as part of my many "hats" I wore for a very small sign and label company - mostly because I knew computers and the others were lame at it. And let's just say this - YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SQUAT! I had several people call me on various occasions and ask me the VERY SAME THING - and after a few moments on the 1-800 line with UPS (or with asking the driver if he happened to be there) I was able to get packages re-routed easily and in plenty of time.
Don't believe me? Call UPS. In fact, call FedEx - since they weere the ones we called regarding this and told me that yes, Verizon could alter the shipping. So next time pinky-jo - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Joe Banks - 15 Jun 2006 11:15 GMT I used to work in a shipping department as part of my many "hats" I wore for a very small sign and label company - mostly because I knew computers and the others were lame at it. And let's just say this - YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SQUAT! I had several people call me on various occasions and ask me the VERY SAME THING - and after a few moments on the 1-800 line with UPS (or with asking the driver if he happened to be there) I was able to get packages re-routed easily and in plenty of time.
Don't believe me? Call UPS. In fact, call FedEx - since they weere the ones we called regarding this and told me that yes, Verizon could alter the shipping. So next time pinky-jo - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
=== Geez, ok, we get it, you know how to copy and paste. (^^ Lost track of how many times ^^) I bet you have a sweet 'puter!
Must be the longest thread about basically nothing.
> In news:02tu825m2uki0afra8upc6hcm9m82so3s6@4ax.com, Full Name > <dontwantyouremail@nospam.nycap.com> first attempted to communicate with [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > ones we called regarding this and told me that yes, Verizon could alter > the shipping. So next time pinky-jo - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! PawsForThought - 17 Jun 2006 03:58 GMT > I used to work in a shipping department as part of my many "hats" I wore for > a very small sign and label company - mostly because I knew computers and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Must be the longest thread about basically nothing. I can't help but wonder why this guy didn't simply have the phones delivered to his work address in the first place. But I guess that would make too much sense.
Full Name - 17 Jun 2006 15:42 GMT On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:32:17 -0400, "Kyle :o\)" <GoSensGo@BringHomeTheCup.com> wrote:
>In news:02tu825m2uki0afra8upc6hcm9m82so3s6@4ax.com, Full Name ><dontwantyouremail@nospam.nycap.com> first attempted to communicate with [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >ones we called regarding this and told me that yes, Verizon could alter the >shipping. So next time pinky-jo - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! SO TELL US ALL please, u went to another company for cell service right? Cause if I worked for Verizon wireless, I would do anything and everything to make your cell service the best you ever had, sign you up for every service we had, just to make your DUMB a.s happy
Your a JackAss of all trades and a MASTER of Bullshit
The shipper can reroute a package through the carrier, ONLY he they choose too.
Your Dumb a.s choose to have them shipped to the house, and than you complain about the whole process.
Theres NO pleasing you
Ted Hollis - 18 Jun 2006 00:58 GMT > Well my wife and I took the plunge this past weekend and decided to go with > Verizon after lots of input from this group, as well as from all the helpful [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > Outsourcing - gotta love it!! ;-) I'll agree. Verizon has horrible customer service. I bought a new V815 and my calls would drop al of the time. I called tech support and this stupid a.s jig named "Tyrome" (no surprise) told me I need to dial the numbers slower. He was such an idiot.
Dave Miller - 24 Jun 2006 12:59 GMT FedEx does allow you to "pre-sign" & have it on file, so that is not a problem. Again, that is up to the drivers discretions I believe.
I had a similar thing happen, with Verizon & decide that if I have to take off work. Verizon was gone, because it would be cheaper then taking off.
Dave
> Well my wife and I took the plunge this past weekend and decided to go > with Verizon after lots of input from this group, as well as from all the [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > Outsourcing - gotta love it!! ;-) Larry - 29 Jun 2006 01:24 GMT "Kyle :o\)" <GoSensGo@BringHomeTheCup.com> wrote in news:d_adndY71oLjcRDZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com:
> "Mistress Brandi the BDSM Phone > Dominatrix" I thought I recognized Pepe's voice from somewhere!....
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